Could Derek Carr be a post-June 1 cut? (1 Viewer)

[B4YOU]

The theory is he would do it to help himself get in a better situation, not help the Saints out. But like I said they'd need to be another team out there willing to cover his base salary (BEFORE FREE AGENCY START), very unlikely.

I don't see any situation where Carr helps facilitate a trade for even a 7th round pick.

There is no better situation than NoLa for Carr. There is no team that would pay him 40M while offering a better chance to win. No other team is so cap strapped they can't just release him. NYG and Tenn are drafting QBs. Jets will either roll Rodgers or release prior to his 2025 35M option due while eating 49M in dead cap. Cleveland is stuck with Watson. Raiders already dumped him. I expect both the Raiders and Jets to try to trade for McCarthy and the other will scrap the barrel. We can't post-June 1 release him because we have to restructure him to get cap compliant and he has zero incentive to help. His entire 40M guarantees on the 3rd day of the year.

We will roll 20M+ of Carr's salary to next year. In 2026 we will post-June 1 release or extend. I think ML's plan is bluff a release in 2026 while offering a 30M 1/yr extension (10M pay cut) while hoping the cap outgrows our mismanagement.

 

[TruSaint]

We have no choice but to restructure some ppl Just to get cap compliant.

Valid point. God Loomis is a terrible GM. He's so bad we can't even rebuild properly.

 

[Patman255]

OTC's ideal plan involves moving some money around and cutting/retiring Mathieu, Jordan, Davis, and Ram while trying to see what can be done with Carr's contract. In a goldilocks situation he restructures in a way that gets him paid now but cut before the start of the 2025 season. This is probably a pipe dream and more likely we end up either hard ball cutting him if it's possible to get under the cap next year but more likely he's with us one more season and cut in 2026.

But if we could really get these 5 players and their salaries off the roster and stomach what will likely be incredibly bad 2025 and 2026 seasons, I think we'd be in a a position by 2027 to have the ghost of our bad contracts behind us and then we see if there's a nucleus of young talent from these next couple drafts to be able to get back to being competitive by 2027.

 

[Saintcd]

OTC's ideal plan involves moving some money around and cutting/retiring Mathieu, Jordan, Davis, and Ram while trying to see what can be done with Carr's contract. In a goldilocks situation he restructures in a way that gets him paid now but cut before the start of the 2025 season. This is probably a pipe dream and more likely we end up either hard ball cutting him if it's possible to get under the cap next year but more likely he's with us one more season and cut in 2026.

But if we could really get these 5 players and their salaries off the roster and stomach what will likely be incredibly bad 2025 and 2026 seasons, I think we'd be in a a position by 2027 to have the ghost of our bad contracts behind us and then we see if there's a nucleus of young talent from these next couple drafts to be able to get back to being competitive by 2027.

The players you mentioned should be cut no matter what at this point. They have all lost a step, got older and one is out the door into retirement with his knee. I’d rather see some young hungry rookie or udfa step in. Win-win, find a gem or get a better draft pick.

 

[St4ever]

It would be better to keep him even if he is the number two guy. His cap hit would be easier and he is a great backup piece that becomes tradeable in the right situation.
It’s accurate when it says it’s cheaper to keep him but your not getting a better QB then him while we still have him or his cap hit.

 

[MG3n2K5]

It would be better to keep him even if he is the number two guy. His cap hit would be easier and he is a great backup piece that becomes tradeable in the right situation.
It’s accurate when it says it’s cheaper to keep him but your not getting a better QB then him while we still have him or his cap hit.

At this point getting the best QB is not the main concern, it's removing the cap issues as fast as possible. Keeping him means pushing $20-25M of his base salary into future years which is not cheaper. Considering the Saints cap situation it is likely the most feasible route though.

 

[sammymvpknight]

We honestly need to do nothing, restructure nothing, be the worst team in the NFL next year, let these bad salaries clear

Preach!

 

[Merl]

You can do as many post June 1st cuts as you want. However you can only do two cuts prior to June 1st while having them count as post-June 1st.

If we cut Carr, his dead cap is $50 m. If we designate. him post June 1st, then its spread out over two years, we would save $25m.

You don't get that savings until June 1st!

 

[DCSaints_Fan]

You don't get that savings until June 1st!

Yes, we would have to restructure a few of the bigger contracts but I think we coudl swing it if we really wanted to

 

[Ghost]

The chance Carr agrees to anything contract wise is next to zero.

He didn't budge for the Raiders, he's not budging for the Saints.

 

[Clintonrebel]

Carr is a middle tier starting quarterback. Carr is not the Saints problem. He is not the solution either. If you cut Carr you still have to draft or sign a QB. Too many other things need fixing.

 

[Ghost]

Carr is a middle tier starting quarterback. Carr is not the Saints problem. He is not the solution either. If you cut Carr you still have to draft or sign a QB. Too many other things need fixing.

"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem."

Was true for the Raiders and now true for the Saints.