COVID-19 Outbreak Information Updates (Reboot) [over 150.000,000 US cases (est.), 6,422,520 US hospitilizations, 1,148,691 US deaths.] (4 Viewers)

No, that's not how that works.

The people saying that fasting made their symptoms worse in that paper are the patients, not the medical professionals.

Your individual experience does not override theirs.

That doesn't mean it was just coincidence and that it didn't work for you, of course. The average experience doesn't override your personal experience either. But it does very strongly indicate it not only wouldn't work for everyone with those conditions, it would make a lot of them worse.
Wow. This is very interesting. I have had some residual smell/taste issues since I had Covid in October 2021. Was attempting to use autophogy as a tool to clean up these loose ends, so I have fasted a bit since end of December. All of a sudden about two/three weeks ago, my sense of smell went bonkers, and I think it may have been around the time I did a three day fast after having recently done a two day and some 20:4 IF. I haven't been able to figure out what triggered this, but now I have to wonder if it is related. This is going to take some sorting and processing.
 
Wow. This is very interesting. I have had some residual smell/taste issues since I had Covid in October 2021. Was attempting to use autophogy as a tool to clean up these loose ends, so I have fasted a bit since end of December. All of a sudden about two/three weeks ago, my sense of smell went bonkers, and I think it may have been around the time I did a three day fast after having recently done a two day and some 20:4 IF. I haven't been able to figure out what triggered this, but now I have to wonder if it is related. This is going to take some sorting and processing.

It worked very well for me, in all aspects of my health. My sense of smell has returned 100%. I actually miss not being able to smell bad odors lol
 




 
Yet this is happening there now?


Back in December, omicron BA.1 caused a massive surge in cases in Denmark, similar to the surge in the United States. But then, just as cases began to decline, BA.2 started spreading very rapidly in Denmark. After only a few weeks, BA.2 took over the outbreak there and has lengthened Denmark's surge. Denmark's cases are climbing steeply, with more than 40,000 recorded each day. Since the second week in January, BA.2 has caused more than 50% of those cases, according to the Statens Serum Institut in Copenhagen.
 





So you'll glibly, and wrongly, dismiss actual research on the grounds that "Many medical professionals are going to dismiss fasting because they(and big pharma) can't make any money from it." Because they make so much money from the usual treatment for long Covid and other chronic fatigue conditions (i.e. mostly shrugging and "maybe exercise?").

But then you dump links from a site advertising their thousands of euros a stay fasting clinics and from Gwyneth Paltrow, who'd like you to buy her health advisor's fasting book (from the Goop Press series, foreword by Gwyneth Paltrow, $27.99), and why not support your 'interactive fasting' with herbal non-alcoholic cocktails ($32, or three for $89) and a detoxifying superpowder ($60)?

Get a grip.
 
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WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) — When the coronavirus began spreading around the world, the remote Pacific archipelago of Kiribati closed its borders, ensuring the disease didn’t reach its shores for nearly two full years.

Kiribati finally began reopening this month, allowing the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to charter a plane to bring home 54 of the island nation’s citizens. Many of those aboard were missionaries who had left Kiribati before the border closure to spread the faith abroad for what is commonly known as the Mormon church.

Officials tested each returning passenger three times in nearby Fiji, required that they be vaccinated, and put them in quarantine with additional testing when they arrived home.

It wasn’t enough.

More than half the passengers tested positive for the virus, which has now slipped out into the community and prompted the government to declare a state of disaster. An initial 36 positive cases from the flight had ballooned to 181 cases by Friday.


Kiribati and several other small Pacific nations were among the last places on the planet to have avoided any virus outbreaks, thanks to their remote locations and strict border controls. But their defenses appear no match against the highly contagious omicron variant……..

 
Just saw on a podcast about a massive trucker convoy going on in Canada against the mandates for them specifically.

I mean they have a point, why do they have a mandate if they are alone in their cabs nearly all the time driving cross country.
Numbers are exaggerated and not as big as they are saying. Also the organizer has a different alternative to this convoy that has nothing to do with vaxx or not. As well there’s about 85%-90% of the truckers that are vaccinated.
 
WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) — When the coronavirus began spreading around the world, the remote Pacific archipelago of Kiribati closed its borders, ensuring the disease didn’t reach its shores for nearly two full years.

Kiribati finally began reopening this month, allowing the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to charter a plane to bring home 54 of the island nation’s citizens. Many of those aboard were missionaries who had left Kiribati before the border closure to spread the faith abroad for what is commonly known as the Mormon church.

Officials tested each returning passenger three times in nearby Fiji, required that they be vaccinated, and put them in quarantine with additional testing when they arrived home.

It wasn’t enough.

More than half the passengers tested positive for the virus, which has now slipped out into the community and prompted the government to declare a state of disaster. An initial 36 positive cases from the flight had ballooned to 181 cases by Friday.


Kiribati and several other small Pacific nations were among the last places on the planet to have avoided any virus outbreaks, thanks to their remote locations and strict border controls. But their defenses appear no match against the highly contagious omicron variant……..

I heard about that. According to the Kiribati government (facebook post, here) not only were the passengers fully vaccinated, and had all had three tests, that was during a two week predeparture quarantine.

Have to think that must have pretty lax. Because, sure, there's an incubation period, and testing can miss a case, especially if it's really early. But it's not typically a two week incubation period, so having 36 out of 54 test positive within days of arrival suggests either the predeparture testing was so bad as to be useless, or at least one person got infected during that predeparture quarantine, testing in Fiji missed it, and they turned out to be a super spreader and spread it either in quarantine or in flight.

They're up to 201 cases now and under a lockdown curfew. Hope they can get on top of it, because even assuming it's Omicron, reportedly they're only up to 53% of the population vaccinated with two doses, so it could be pretty brutal unsuppressed.
 
The Covid noose is tightening around my neck. My son started symptoms last night, so we tested him at home and it popped positive almost immediately (at about 2 minutes of a 10 minute wait time). Yay. He left and went back to his mom's, since she tested positive Wednesday morning. So now, I have my daughter with me and just waiting to see if symptoms start. We're all vaccinated and I have my booster (they were going to get their booster next week), so not too worried about getting terribly sick, but I'd rather not be sick at all. Fun times. Forking virus.
 

My brother had this after he got it last February. When his sense of taste and smell came back, it came back all screwed up and things tasted and smelled horrible. He stopped drinking coffee completely because of it. He likened the smell/taste of a number of things to rotten onions.

It's been close to a year, but he's finally mostly returned to normal.
 
It's been fairly routine in data since boosters have come available. 1 shot gives some very short lived amount of immunity against all variants from the little research I've seen but it's main purpose is the primer for the second shot which gives a much more robust and sustained response since the immune system has been "trained". It's why the vaccine was created for two doses to begin with. Either people have taken the vaccine as it was designed or they have not.
You also have to look at the study methods. The average age of participants was in their 50s, from what I remember, many with comorbidities. So when they looked at the bell shaped curve they determined that the 2nd dose was important for the average study participant. But that is not necessarily true of a healthy 20 year old, or even an unhealthy 90 year old. Maybe a single dose would be fine for a 20 year old, and maybe two doses isn’t enough for a 90 year old (which is largely why we are getting boosters). The same rationale applies for the decision whether to get a booster. It may not be absolutely necessary for an otherwise healthy 20 year old…but absolutely necessary for a 90 year old. But we are very broadly applying recommendations for everyone out of simplicity, to prevent confusion, and to be conservative.
 
Why doesn’t this ever work in reverse and everything tastes delicious?

Even food you thought were disgusting before (looking at you peas & liver) now tastes incredible
For the same reason any medication that works tastes nasty....NyQuil, BC powder.....
 

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