COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (16 Viewers)

[jayd265]

one of my fiancees friends brothers passed away last night from COVID 19. not exactly sure where he lived, as far as i can tell from facebook it's breaux bridge (st martin parish). also, he was 41. not sure about health issues prior.

 

[superchuck500]

I can't imagine the stress this puts on the 911 dispatchers. Those guys don't get paid enough. One of my coworkers from my last job and a good friend told me some horror stories from when he was a dispatcher. Crazy.

Wow - I think that's a meaningful metric.

 

[AARPSaint]

It is idiotic that the House has to travel back to DC to vote. Of course, one could always question why they were in recess in the first place under the circumstances.

 

[bclemms]

Wow - I think that's a meaningful metric.

Yeah, that tweet hit home more than any other this week for me. Well, that one and Rudy's tweet yesterday discounting the death toll in a City he once ran. The two combined to show me just serious this is and at the same time just how poltical it has become which is a frightening combination.

 

[Eeyore]

Never waste a crisis.

EPA temporarily stops enforcement of environmental laws due to coronavirus

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) suspended its enforcement of a variety of environmental laws on Thursday, saying that industries could have trouble complying with them due to the coronavirus pandemic.

www.foxnews.com

(Might be fake, I couldn't find a credible source)

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

I can't imagine the stress this puts on the 911 dispatchers. Those guys don't get paid enough. One of my coworkers from my last job and a good friend told me some horror stories from when he was a dispatcher. Crazy.

Totally agree Dave. They definitely don’t get paid enough.

I wonder how many of those people who called actually have/had life threatening issues?

I’d wager a large amount did/do not have life threatening conditions but the panic level is thru the roof.

 

[gboudx]

SIAP. I read this story this morning.

Soccer Game Attended by 40,000 Fans Likely Made This Italian City a Coronavirus Epicenter

Thousands more fans gathered in bars and houses to watch the highly anticipated Feb. 19 Champions League match

time.com

(ROME) — It was the biggest soccer game in Atalanta’s history and a third of Bergamo’s population made the short trip to Milan’s famed San Siro Stadium.

Nearly 2,500 fans of visiting Spanish club Valencia also traveled to that Champions League match.

More than a month later, experts are pointing to the Feb. 19 game as one of the biggest reasons why Bergamo has become one of the epicenters of the coronavirus pandemic — a “biological bomb” was the way one respiratory specialist put it — and why 35% of Valencia’s team became infected.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Wow - I think that's a meaningful metric.

I think it’s meaningful in confirming that many many people are worked up into a frenzy over COVID-19,

And no, I’m not discounting this. Just my opinion and observation from that tweet.

 

[superchuck500]

I think it’s meaningful in confirming that many many people are worked up into a frenzy over COVID-19,

And no, I’m not discounting this. Just my opinion and observation from that tweet.

I'm sure a percentage of it is paranoia.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

SIAP. I read this story this morning.

Soccer Game Attended by 40,000 Fans Likely Made This Italian City a Coronavirus Epicenter

Thousands more fans gathered in bars and houses to watch the highly anticipated Feb. 19 Champions League match

time.com

Feb 19 - the Wednesday before Mardi Gras - but New Orleans should've known better and cancelled Mardi Gras....

 

[0rion]

Never waste a crisis.

EPA temporarily stops enforcement of environmental laws due to coronavirus

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) suspended its enforcement of a variety of environmental laws on Thursday, saying that industries could have trouble complying with them due to the coronavirus pandemic.

www.foxnews.com

(Might be fake, I couldn't find a credible source)

On a related note ......the diesel Bros are back in business haha

 

[Arathrael]

The UK Health Secretary has it too. Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the cabinet has it at this point.

 

[DoubleSaint]

Boris Johnson, "We're going for herd immunity and want to get as many Brits sick as soon as possible".

Covid-19, "Hold my Corona"

Surely herd immunity is still the global strategy until there’s a vaccine? The only thing reckless about the strategy in the UK and the USA in particular was not taking into account how overwhelmed healthcare systems would become if too many caught it at once.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

The UK Health Secretary has it too. Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the cabinet has it at this point.

Think I read that Boris has it as well.

 

[Arathrael]

Surely herd immunity is still the global strategy until there’s a vaccine? The only thing reckless about the strategy in the UK and the USA in particular was not taking into account how overwhelmed healthcare systems would become if too many caught it at once.

I don't think so. Right now, the best evidence is that herd immunity is essentially unobtainable, because the proportion of people needing to be hospitalised is such that achieving herd immunity without overwhelming healthcare systems would require both massive increases in healthcare availability and a probably unrealistic level of control on transmission rates. And that's putting aside that having a significant proportion of your population hospitalised, many critically, has at least some chance of having long-term impacts.

That might change if further evidence shows that many more people are getting it without developing significant symptoms, i.e. the proportion of people hospitalised is actually much, much lower than it appears at the moment, in which case herd immunity might become a significant factor. Or if better treatment is developed, limiting the number of people needing to be hospitalised and/or the duration they need it.

It's also possible that some nations might opt for herd immunity by just letting their healthcare systems be overwhelmed, but you'd hope not.

So I think the global strategy right now, overall, is to contain and delay. That might be delay until herd immunity becomes viable, either through better understanding or new treatments, or it might be delay until vaccination is available.

The contain and delay strategy starts with test, trace, and isolate, and escalates all the way up to full lockdowns as and when the number of cases overwhelms the testing capacity.

That's my impression of the situation anyway.