Cowboys sign Saints FA DE Payton Turner to a 1-year, $3 million deal

[IlovemySaints]

Foskeys issue is he's stiff as a board. Quickness is irrelevant if you can't bend the corner.

He might swerve bend dat corner wooahh

 

[rememberTHEsaints]

The Payton Davenport era is finally over. 3 first round picks gone and 2 training tables freed up.

Between those two we might have gotten a full season of play

 

[IlovemySaints]

HAU'OLI KIKAHA​

Was better than Davenport and Turner I don’t know why he never really got the opportunity

a player that got a knack for causing turnovers you keep

 

[Saint KayBee]

HAU'OLI KIKAHA​

Was better than Davenport and Turner I don’t know why he never really got the opportunity

a player that got a knack for causing turnovers you keep

Kikaha tore his ACL in 2016 (his third ACL tear going back to college) then had a gnarly ankle injury in 2017.

By then the defense was primarily playing 4-2-5 and he was a decent third-down pass rush DE but he wasn’t the same after the ACL tear and the busted ankle all but wrapped it up.

 

[IlovemySaints]

Kikaha tore his ACL in 2016 (his third ACL tear going back to college) then had a gnarly ankle injury in 2017.

By then the defense was primarily playing 4-2-5 and he was a decent third-down pass rush DE but he wasn’t the same after the ACL tear and the busted ankle all but wrapped it up.

Ok I always wondered what happened to him

 

[dvdman]

Davenport and Turner

Were both Payton picks?

 

[JackDiesel]

Meanwhile Greg Rousseau was selected 2 picks later and amassed 25 career sacks and just re-upped with the Bills for $20 million a year. Dennis Allen's prototype for DE's was broken.

 

[Saint KayBee]

Meanwhile Greg Rousseau was selected 2 picks later and amassed 25 career sacks and just re-upped with the Bills for $20 million a year. Dennis Allen's prototype for DE's was broken.

Marcus Davenport: 6’6” 265
Payton Turner: 6’6” 270

Greg Rousseau: 6’6” 266

The problem was the players. Rousseau came from a better collegiate pedigree (Miami, ACC) than the schools Davenport and Turner came from, being Conference USA (UTSA) and AAC (Houston) schools. UTSA has moved across to the AAC, and Houston has moved up to the Big 12, but their programs were both small-time when those players matriculated and should never have been the places Sean Payton sought to spend first-round picks, especially being on the side of the ball he didn’t specialize in. I’d have trusted it if Payton had gone for a WR or OT or something on offense from the road less traveled, but not defense. Neither of them had the collegiate pedigree that said “overlook the conference, these are can’t-miss prospects.”

 

[JackDiesel]

Marcus Davenport: 6’6” 265
Payton Turner: 6’6” 270

Greg Rousseau: 6’6” 266

The problem was the players. Rousseau came from a better collegiate pedigree (Miami, ACC) than the schools Davenport and Turner came from, being Conference USA (UTSA) and AAC (Houston) schools. UTSA has moved across to the AAC, and Houston has moved up to the Big 12, but their programs were both small-time when those players matriculated and should never have been the places Sean Payton sought to spend first-round picks, especially being on the side of the ball he didn’t specialize in. I’d have trusted it if Payton had gone for a WR or OT or something on offense from the road less traveled, but not defense. Neither of them had the collegiate pedigree that said “overlook the conference, these are can’t-miss prospects.”

Isaiah Foskey: 6'5" 264

I know Payton had the final say in the picks but I'd be completely and utterly shocked if Dennis Allen didn't have a big say in drafting them. The dude hit on Hendrickson, had him in the building and chalked up his production to 2nd effort and coverage sacks.

 

[El Caliente]

Meanwhile Greg Rousseau was selected 2 picks later and amassed 25 career sacks and just re-upped with the Bills for $20 million a year. Dennis Allen's prototype for DE's was broken.

Dennis Allen likes Walmart king cake.

 

[Saint KayBee]

Isaiah Foskey: 6'5" 264

I know Payton had the final say in the picks but I'd be completely and utterly shocked if Dennis Allen didn't have a big say in drafting them. The dude hit on Hendrickson, had him in the building and chalked up his production to 2nd effort and coverage sacks.

Lots of teams were looking for Julius Peppers, Mario Williams types - basketball power forward length with a mean streak to wear down tackles. The silver lining is the Saints are not the only team that missed on this archetype. Far from it. Lots of 6’5”-6’7”, 245-265lb guys who were picked high just didn’t make it for whatever reason.

 

[DSnfla]

I have a sickly feeling that Turner could develop under a good DL coach if he stays healthy. Grantham was abysmal and Turner was hurt most of his time here. A perfect recipe for a player to develop in a different environment

 

[Albi]

5 career sacks…. It’s time to move on!

After his pick, not many elite players came out in his draft. So at least we didn’t miss out.

Not many studs after his pick in the entire draft… crazy to think. It was a weak year for talent

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

I have a sickly feeling that Turner could develop under a good DL coach if he stays healthy. Grantham was abysmal and Turner was hurt most of his time here. A perfect recipe for a player to develop in a different environment

Yeah, I have a feeling that he may stay healthy and become Rob Ninkovich 2.0. Doesn’t matter as we can’t keep waiting, hoping and investing in the chance he stays healthy. If he does succeed in Dallas, most of those celebrating his departure will the first to bemoan him being let go.