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I really don't know how these things work or why money is dead or alive but for the sake of not looking like the dummy, I'll....
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This ^It was fine when Drew was here, but it's time to pay those bills and get our picks back. This is not a SuperBowl team
Player salary is jumping as much as the cap. Every year the cap is bigger for every team it's a lot of new available money for teams to overpay players and then the saints needs to do some magic just to be able to field a team.The cap went from $182 million last year to $208 million this year to a projected $225 million next year.
Players salaries haven’t jumped that much lol.
And even if they do, then it still means the dead $ were pushing into the future is a smaller percentage of both the cap AND current player salaries.
Really its 30 million dead cap on 4 players (Armstead, Brees, Jenkins, Winston) and 6 million on the other 16.
The team currently atop the Saints' division has almost $79 Million in dead cap this year per Sportrac.
It's important, but not make all break all, and as others have pointed out, the Saints are not too far off the league average.
If you can point me to where player salaries have jumped over 10% (median and average) from one year to the next and are projected to jump another 10% from this year to next year, based on the pre-existing base salaries of all players (which is what we’re talking about here), I’d love to see it.Player salary is jumping as much as the cap. Every year the cap is bigger for every team it's a lot of new available money for teams to overpay players and then the saints needs to do some magic just to be able to field a team.
The cap went from $182 million last year to $208 million this year to a projected $225 million next year.
Players salaries haven’t jumped that much lol.
And even if they do, then it still means the dead $ were pushing into the future is a smaller percentage of both the cap AND current player salaries.
You picked out two positions.QB and WR salaries have absolutely gone up that much. Agents negotiate QB salaries as a % of the future cap and not just flat $. There are 5 WR that have an average contract at or greater than 25M. That was QB pay 2 years ago.
You picked out two positions.
The roster is 53. And we’re not going to be paying a QB anywhere near that much.
And once we are, his salary will coincide with a drop at other spots.
Teams have tools they can use to shift money around like turning a portion of a players base salary into a prorated signing bonus and spread that out over the length of the contract.
Teams can also extend contracts to spread some of that money out over time
Yep, really good thoughts.I know exactly how you feel. Any time i talked about the long term viability of staying "All In" I would be shot down with, "You just don't understand how the cap works". Well I always understood how the cap works, it's not that difficult to understand. You don't have to be a brain scientist or a rocket surgeon to understand the cap. My question was never can Loomis keep kicking the can, my question was should he keep kicking the can.
It didn't seem ideal to be starting every offseason digging out of a 50-80 million dollar hole just to get under the cap. I assumed that when Drew retired the all in philosophy would go with him. And then when SP left I was sure that our all in days were behind us. Instead they went all in, again. Except this time they weren't sacrificing the future for a legitimate shot at a championship with a first ballot HoF QB and the best HC in the team's history. This time they were going all in with Jameis Winston. They went all in on a stone cold bluff.
What's done is done. Now they are stuck with these huge cap hits and dead money. They will be forced to keep restructuring contracts to get under the cap and field a team. Even if they wanted to blow it up and start over, they can't. To turn this thing around they have to make every pick count. They have to hit on some UDFAs and they have to find the answer to the QB question. The good news is that we have some of the best talent evaluators in the NFL and they'll make the most of our picks. Of course that's assuming SP doesn't poach them when he picks his next team.
The point is that when you push current dead $ into the future, it will always occupy a smaller % of the cap than if you pay it off now. Because the cap is always going up.Maybe I’m missing your point or it’s not clear. Yoy free cap space by teams isn’t growing. Player salaries eat that growth throughout the spectrum of player positions and service years. The NFL minimum salary grows 10%/yr.
Yes, inflation helps with debt. Just not as much as people think because you are still competing with 31 other teams for FA talent. You have to stop spending for that inflation/debt benefit.
Keep doing it since it’s working and we currently aren’t paying a franchise QBSeems like they’ve already abused those tools already and what’s the next step?