Derek Carr world tour thread (updated with combine visits) (1 Viewer)

[Judge_Smails]

He actually likes DA and respects him so that is IN our favor

Would you take less money to work for a boss you like that might not still be your boss, 12 or 24 months from now?

 

[Saint Jack]

Would you take less money to work for a boss you like that might not still be your boss, 12 or 24 months from now?

You can say the same thing about the Jets or about 20 other teams.
Reid, Tomlin, and BB are probably the only guarantees for the next three years no matter what.

 

[Judge_Smails]

You can say the same thing about the Jets or about 20 other teams.
Reid, Tomlin, and BB are probably the only guarantees for the next three years no matter what.

But the Jets will be able and willing to overpay and so would Atl or the Panthers if interested, so it’s not the same thing.

The same thing would be all teams hoping he likes or has enough connection to their HC to literally take millions less than what should be the top offer.

This is not that.

 

[Saint Jack]

David Carr on Derek’s qualifications for his next stop.

 

[Rouxble]

Still not really a pay cut. If he plays he get that $

That’s exactly it, if he plays. With less guaranteed money, the Saints can move on if 2023 looks more like 2022 instead of 2018-2021. If the Saints move on, now Carr is on the market with even less guaranteed money on the table than he could get this year.

The contract Carr was just released from is the perfect example, he got a 3 year $121m extension through 2025 with $25m guaranteed in 2022, he was cut after earning only $25m.

 

[DSnfla]

Would you take less money to work for a boss you like that might not still be your boss, 12 or 24 months from now?

If I had respect for him and knew he believed in me and that I thought I could win with him. It's not just that he likes DA. And if we win the division and maybe a playoff game DA is not going anywhere. I may not agree with it but he's not

 

[DSnfla]

That’s exactly it, if he plays. With less guaranteed money, the Saints can move on if 2023 looks more like 2022 instead of 2018-2021. If the Saints move on, now Carr is on the market with even less guaranteed money on the table than he could get this year.

The contract Carr was just released from is the perfect example, he got a 3 year $121m extension through 2025 with $25m guaranteed in 2022, he was cut after earning only $25m.

Yeah but there has been no confirmation the Saints wanted less guaranteed $ , Just one guy saying it was from an anonymous source

 

[Saint Spud]

David Carr on Derek’s qualifications for his next stop.

First time I’ve heard a legit explanation of why it didn’t work in LV.

Why in the world, if you have a QB who has been successful when he’s been given the freedom to change plays at the line of scrimmage, would you take that freedom away?

 

[No2DC]

First time I’ve heard a legit explanation of why it didn’t work in LV.

Why in the world, if you have a QB who has been successful when he’s been given the freedom to change plays at the line of scrimmage, would you take that freedom away?

Meh, McDaniels is the new offensive coach, of course, he wants to run things his way until they get to a common ground.

 

[St. Geezy]

First time I’ve heard a legit explanation of why it didn’t work in LV.

Why in the world, if you have a QB who has been successful when he’s been given the freedom to change plays at the line of scrimmage, would you take that freedom away?

There is definitely more to the story than we’ll ever know.

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I remember during the season hearing that the Raiders are currently cash poor, and literally couldn’t afford to fire Josh McDaniels even if they wanted to.

Is it impossible to fathom that they simply can’t afford to pay Carr his salary, or better put, would prefer to hold onto that money?

There is a salary cap, but real cash is also a part of that.

 

[No2DC]

There is definitely more to the story than we’ll ever know.

Cryptic Derek Carr tweet implies there was more to the story with Raiders exit

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I remember during the season hearing that the Raiders are currently cash poor, and literally couldn’t afford to fire Josh McDaniels even if they wanted to.

Is it impossible to fathom that they simply can’t afford to pay Carr his salary, or better put, would prefer to hold onto that money?

There is a salary cap, but real cash is also a part of that.

I really don't understand the money thing with the Raiders. Yes, Davis is not independently wealthy, but the team is still making profits, right? All owners share revenue but are they in the hole or Davis is just cheap?

 

[St. Geezy]

I really don't understand the money thing with the Raiders. Yes, Davis is not independently wealthy, but the team is still making profits, right? All owners share revenue but are they in the hole or Davis is just cheap?

Good question…I know they got crushed recently with the $350 million relocation fee, so maybe that’s the key contributing factor?

 

[Saint Spud]

Meh, McDaniels is the new offensive coach, of course, he wants to run things his way until they get to a common ground.

Good coaches work to the strengths of their players.

McDaniels hasn’t shown much of an ability to do that.

 

[Booker]

I really don't understand the money thing with the Raiders. Yes, Davis is not independently wealthy, but the team is still making profits, right? All owners share revenue but are they in the hole or Davis is just cheap?

Davis is one the least wealthy owners, and he's relatively cash poor compared to most of them (think about how many current owners who were already billionaires when they bought their team, whereas Davis' family wealth is all from the Raiders). So once the money starts flowing during the season they're able to pay everyone's salaries, but they're limited in how much they can pay up front in bonus money due to cash on hand. But on top of that, all guaranteed money has to be placed in escrow up front.

So that's why they had to cut Carr before his money became guaranteed -- they weren't trying to avoid a big bonus he was due, just guaranteed salary. Carr wouldn't actually have received any of it until he got his weekly paychecks, but Davis would have had to come up with $40M and put it in escrow this week. That, along with Carr's no trade clause, and generally wanting to get out of his contract, are why they had to cut him.

 

[Booker]

Good coaches work to the strengths of their players.

McDaniels hasn’t shown much of an ability to do that.

That's the truth. McDaniels was terrible in Denver -- came in and got rid of anyone he didn't think fit his system, and forced schemes that didn't fit the talent on hand. The team got much worse during his tenure, and it looks like he's doing the same thing in Vegas.