Derek Carr world tour thread (updated with combine visits) (2 Viewers)

[JackDiesel]

He’s probably going to the Bucs if he doesn’t come here. I’m all for going after Jimmy G. anyway.

So he can spend most of the season on IR? We haven't had enough frustration with injuries over the last 2 years? Now you want to add the most injury prone QB who is average at best to the mix?

 

[Rouxble]

Carr can change plays at the line, he can call protection instead of McCoy (which is insanely underrated), make all the throws instead of dinking and dunking, he's an actual QB.

Agree on ability to make all the throws, but it’s not crazy uncommon for the center to call protections. Pat Kirwan said Jeff Saturday did it for Peyton Manning, and also said that in any given year half the teams are letting the centers call protections.

 

[Hedon James]

The others have more money and the Jets have a pretty good D. All we have is Carr's relationship with Allen.

I think our chances of going to the playoffs in the weak NFCS might be a factor also. I have to assume that the money will be somewhat similar across the board, so money issues will get resolved. At that point, it's about "other factors."

Let's not forget that the Raiders have been to the playoffs ONCE during DC4's tenure at QB. And he didn't even get to play in that game because he broke his leg less than a month before the season ended. If I was DC4, 9 years into my career and likely with less years in front of me than behind me, I'd want to play in a playoff game in the WORST possible way. I'd pick a team that I feel best provides that playoff opportunity.

I see the Jets in the AFC East as being in a similar division as the AFC West. Always looking up at another team that's better. For years it was the Patriots. Now it's the Bills, with no end in sight as long as Josh Allen is QB. And the Dolphins might be forcing their way into consideration as the 2nd best team in that division. All of a sudden, the Jets situation looks a lot like his previous 9 years in the AFC West....hoping for a WC berth.

The NFC South is a mess, and RIPE for the taking. The Bucs, Panthers, & Saints are all fairly equal in terms of strong defenses, supporting rosters, and ability to challenge for the division title. Take the division....a WEAK division...and you're IN that elusive playoff game! Of the 3 teams mentioned, I see the Bucs and Saints as having better offensive personnel than the Panthers...so edge to Bucs & Saints. Of those 2 teams, I see the Saints as having the better defense. Edge Saints. Add in the personal relationship that DC4 has with DA and I think the grains of sand tip the scales in the Saints favor.

Of course, this is all predicated on DC4's thought processes and criteria closely resembling my suppositions outlined above. Maybe he sees the fewer years ahead than behind, and has decided that it's time to focus on maximizing financial security, with the biggest payday as his primary criteria. If that's the case, the Saints are probably the 1st team eliminated from consideration. OTOH, if that is his criteria, I don't want him.

But I get that "chip on his shoulder" vibe from DC4 that I got from DB9. Both were unceremoniously "dumped" by the teams they poured their heart & soul into. Both have done what was asked of them, while chomping at the bit to do more. Both were capable of more, if allowed to do more. Both are reputed to be devout Christians who aspire to higher purposes. And I suspect both are driven to demonstrate that "disrespecting them" is a huge mistake. I see many parallels in both situations and players. The biggest difference, and it is a BIG one.....is that DB9 came at a discount, despite the Saints belief in him, because he was "damaged goods". I sincerely doubt that DC4 will come at a discount. We'll be paying full price for him...maybe more....so we better be damn sure "he's the man" for the next 3-5 years. Because that's a long time to be stuck with a contract for a player you can't get rid off, because they're not getting it done, but you can't afford to let them go.

 

[OutlawSaint]

Is Carr expected to visit again anytime soon?

 

[Rouxble]

Is Carr expected to visit again anytime soon?

I’m not wearing out my F5 key for no reason, but still no news other than “team X may be interested” or “may be a good fit.”

 

[Saint Spud]

I’m not wearing out my F5 key for no reason, but still no news other than “team X may be interested” or “may be a good fit.”

Yeah, his brother said he’s chilling on a beach in Mexico. This could take awhile

 

[StudioSaint]

They are in the AFC. Only top QB in the NFC is Hurts, Rodgers ain't it anymore and the best of the rest are good but not great. Carr can come in and immediately be in that pack. If it was Dalton holding back Carmichael's scheme then it's possible Carr can separate from the likes of Goff, Stafford, Daniels and Murray.

Carr can change plays at the line, he can call protection instead of McCoy (which is insanely underrated), make all the throws instead of dinking and dunking, he's an actual QB.

Yeah this is an interesting one. Payton and Carmichael have both said through the years they don't want a QB that just runs the play called. They want their QB to change the play or aspects of the play to what the defense is showing.

David Carr said that the reason Derek and McDaniels didn't fit together is because Derek's strength is pre-snap reads and adjustments, but McDaniels didn't want Carr changing plays at the line of scrimmage.

Seems like what Carmichael wants from a QB fits really well with what Carr wants as a QB.

From what little I've seen of Carr in interviews, it also seems like his personality would be a good fit with Carmichael's soft-spoken nature. I think the two of them could work well together.

 

[sfidc3]

The NFC South is a mess, and RIPE for the taking. The Bucs, Panthers, & Saints are all fairly equal in terms of strong defenses, supporting rosters, and ability to challenge for the division title. Take the division....a WEAK division...and you're IN that elusive playoff game! Of the 3 teams mentioned, I see the Bucs and Saints as having better offensive personnel than the Panthers...so edge to Bucs & Saints. Of those 2 teams, I see the Saints as having the better defense. Edge Saints. Add in the personal relationship that DC4 has with DA and I think the grains of sand tip the scales in the Saints favor.

I see this all the time, and it's annoying....The NFC South was a mess last year, that doesn't mean it will (or won't) be this year....things change fast in the NFL....and then folks act all shocked when they do....one single good draft and FA acquisitions can turn a team around quickly.....

 

[jahsoul357]

I see this all the time, and it's annoying....The NFC South was a mess last year, that doesn't mean it will (or won't) be this year....things change fast in the NFL....and then folks act all shocked when they do....one single good draft and FA acquisitions can turn a team around quickly.....

And if folks were paying attention, they would see the small things that the Panthers are doing. That is the team that I'm beginning to worry about.

 

[Jesse Custer]

He’s probably going to the Bucs if he doesn’t come here. I’m all for going after Jimmy G. anyway.

...why? Purdy was better in the same system. Also, remind me how many full seasons he's played. He tore his LCL as I wrote that post.

 

[Hedon James]

I see this all the time, and it's annoying....The NFC South was a mess last year, that doesn't mean it will (or won't) be this year....things change fast in the NFL....and then folks act all shocked when they do....one single good draft and FA acquisitions can turn a team around quickly.....

true! but decisions get made on what is happening today. perception is the decider's reality...

 

[DefensePlease]

Well, I guess so much for maybe a deal having been reached during his visit and we were just waiting for him to get cut. Damn. I was hoping 10 minutes after being cut the deal was announced

 

[nakadish]

So why would we better destination than the Panthers or Jets?

Because we have Pete Freaking Carmichael.

 

[Judge_Smails]

Because we have Pete Freaking Carmichael.

You needed a Rick Flair “Wooo” after that.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

What I find interesting is that Ireland said he would like a dual threat QB. Carr obviously does not fit that. Are they allowing DA to make the call on Carr?