Do you think aliens in ufos have visited Earth? (And all things UFO) (3 Viewers)

[Sailorsaint]

It's been 30 minutes now and I need my Ukraine twitter fix! Am I the only one that is getting a server error when trying to open that thread?

 

[efil4stnias]

It's been 30 minutes now and I need my Ukraine twitter fix! Am I the only one that is getting a server error when trying to open that thread?

Whoa - nope i am too

 

[Consigliere]

they are limited to understanding travel constrained by the very narrow understanding they have of "laws of physics"

Right but while our current "laws of physics" will continue to develop what we do not know, what we do know will not change. Einstein refined rather than changed Newton. We've discovered the speed of light and what mass does when approaching the speed of light. That will not change with future discoveries.

 

[faceman]

Whoa - nope i am too

I'm able to open it

 

[Sailorsaint]

Right but while our current "laws of physics" will continue to develop what we do not know, what we do know will not change. Einstein refined rather than changed Newton. We've discovered the speed of light and what mass does when approaching the speed of light. That will not change with future discoveries.

Sure, but you are thinking that travelling at the speed of light or beyond is the only way to travel great distances. There may be technologies that we haven't even dreamt of that are being used.

 

[Sailorsaint]

I'm able to open it

I am too, now that the site has been "updated". It went from just the one thread to the entire site there for a few minutes. Not sure what happened. I guess, just like the UFO issue, the powers that be will keep it from the masses! j/k!!

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

I would recommend that everyone avoid watching Steven Greer's circus he's got going right now. At this point he is worse for UFO disclosure than anyone in the government trying to discredit it.

It's a shame that some people who have legit stories might end up going to him.

 

[efil4stnias]

Right but while our current "laws of physics" will continue to develop what we do not know, what we do know will not change. Einstein refined rather than changed Newton. We've discovered the speed of light and what mass does when approaching the speed of light. That will not change with future discoveries.

sure.

who says they have to travel at speed of light?

I would recommend that everyone avoid watching Steven Greer's circus he's got going right now. At this point he is worse for UFO disclosure than anyone in the government trying to discredit it.

It's a shame that some people who have legit stories might end up going to him.

almost watched his new one but opted not to after trailer.

 

[mjcouvi]

I still can't believe any of this is true. Seriously, I can't. Even with all the circumstantial evidence, all the reliable sources, I am still not convinced. Not that I don't want to be convinced, I do. But, and I think most people share this sentiment, I will not believe it until I see it, there's something in my mind that just won't let me.

If we see it, actually see it, real proof, then what it will do to our world, we really don't know, do we? Maybe almost nothing perceptible, hardly a change, but maybe it will have a massive impact, if for no other reason than it should encourage humanity to dream bigger and better.

 

[mjcouvi]

Humanity is set to begin directing their own techno-biological evolution in the coming centuries, that's where our species is headed, whether anyone likes it or not. If we get to see aliens now, if information becomes open, that'll really speed up the process of our evolutionary progress. If there are really alien craft then there is also very likely many things about them that are not understood. If the effort of humanity gets behind understanding it, the possibilities are truly unimaginable.

 

[Sailorsaint]

Humanity is set to begin directing their own techno-biological evolution in the coming centuries, that's where our species is headed, whether anyone likes it or not. If we get to see aliens now, if information becomes open, that'll really speed up the process of our evolutionary progress. If there are really alien craft then there is also very likely many things about them that are not understood. If the effort of humanity gets behind understanding it, the possibilities are truly unimaginable.

According to the whistleblower, the aliens that are visiting us aren't bringing candy and roses. There have been deaths and some of the visitors are kinda malevolent. I'm sure there are more reasons why the govt is keeping this a secret other than trying to hide the technology. The whistleblower said that there is a loose agreement to cause no harm but I'm not sure how loose or tight that may be. Maybe the govt doesn't want us to know because there would be questions. Mainly questions about our safety and the ability of the govt to protect us. They don't have the answers we want to hear. If we haven't generated an atmosphere of cooperation with them after all these decades, disclosure is not going to change that. Having said all that, if we have all this proof locked away somewhere, I still want to know.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

According to the whistleblower, the aliens that are visiting us aren't bringing candy and roses. There have been deaths and some of the visitors are kinda malevolent. I'm sure there are more reasons why the govt is keeping this a secret other than trying to hide the technology. The whistleblower said that there is a loose agreement to cause no harm but I'm not sure how loose or tight that may be. Maybe the govt doesn't want us to know because there would be questions. Mainly questions about our safety and the ability of the govt to protect us. They don't have the answers we want to hear. If we haven't generated an atmosphere of cooperation with them after all these decades, disclosure is not going to change that. Having said all that, if we have all this proof locked away somewhere, I still want to know.

I wonder if he just meant bad things when he said malevolent. We all focused on that word choice, but it he may have just made a poor choice of word.

Lue Elizondo always compared it to someone walking into an airplane propeller. He said it could be dangerous even if the plane didn't mean to hurt you.

 

[mjcouvi]

According to the whistleblower, the aliens that are visiting us aren't bringing candy and roses. There have been deaths and some of the visitors are kinda malevolent. I'm sure there are more reasons why the govt is keeping this a secret other than trying to hide the technology. The whistleblower said that there is a loose agreement to cause no harm but I'm not sure how loose or tight that may be. Maybe the govt doesn't want us to know because there would be questions. Mainly questions about our safety and the ability of the govt to protect us. They don't have the answers we want to hear. If we haven't generated an atmosphere of cooperation with them after all these decades, disclosure is not going to change that. Having said all that, if we have all this proof locked away somewhere, I still want to know.

They're not bringing candy and roses, they're bringing a more advanced understanding of science. Not like they're serving it on a platter, but the implications for scientific understanding and research are why this is so exciting. Unleash humanity upon understanding it -- that, to me, is the most human thing to do.

 

[mjcouvi]

I wonder if he just meant bad things when he said malevolent. We all focused on that word choice, but it he may have just made a poor choice of word.

Lue Elizondo always compared it to someone walking into an airplane propeller. He said it could be dangerous even if the plane didn't mean to hurt you.

That's my impression.

 

[Sailorsaint]

They're not bringing candy and roses, they're bringing a more advanced understanding of science. Not like they're serving it on a platter, but the implications for scientific understanding and research are why this is so exciting. Unleash humanity upon understanding it -- that, to me, is the most human thing to do.

What I meant was that they haven't helped us understand the technology to date, disclosure will not change things. However, what disclosure may do is allow the govt to bring more civilian enterprises in on the research. According to the whistleblower, only a select few have been allowed access so far. If we had the entirety of our country working on it, we may be able to work out some reverse engineering. Maybe figure out how to replicate that gravity drive that whathisname talked about being researched at Groom Lake.