Dome Team = Offensive Team (28 Viewers)

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Hubig said:
Thats not really the league anymore. Its high 3k's to low 4k passing yards and running the football. Running games are back, probably more of a side effect of not having prime Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Rivers, Eli, Payton in the league anymore.
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This. KC saw this and adjusted mid season in 2023, their defense with a strong running game won them the Super Bowl. The Eagles and Ravens leaned forward on the running attacks. The Bills use Josh Allen. Indy was bidding for a playoff spot with a horrible QB, but they have JT. The Saints first two weeks were balanced with a rushing attack and dominating. The NFL is swinging back to value the RB and rushing attacks and Defenses still win Championships.
 
Whether you think one strategy is better than the other in terms of building a team with defense vs offense emphasis, it does NOT change the fact that we are stuck with the Super Dome. If at least half your games are played in a certain environment, your should build your team for that environment. Anything else is a strategic mistake.
 
TribuneUK said:
Feel free to tell the Texans they're doing it wrong...
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Ok? You act like they’ve had decades of success. Even if they are successful, how long will that last once they lose their OC?

Really your whole point is moving the goal posts. There is no argument that refutes the Saints play on field turf and a temperature controlled stadium. What does that help the most besides kicking? Passing. Who’s best suited to build a passing oriented offense? A former QB who is adept at passing concepts. It’s a simple concept. Build your team starting with your natural advantages.
 
It’s alot easier to find a good-great defensive coordinator than it is to find a good-great offensive coordinator.

Hire an offensive head coach so you keep the same scheme year over year, DC’s can be replaced easily.
 
TenTwo said:
Ok? You act like they’ve had decades of success. Even if they are successful, how long will that last once they lose their OC?

Really your whole point is moving the goal posts. There is no argument that refutes the Saints play on field turf and a temperature controlled stadium. What does that help the most besides kicking? Passing. Who’s best suited to build a passing oriented offense? A former QB who is adept at passing concepts. It’s a simple concept. Build your team starting with your natural advantages.
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No, I'm giving you a clear example of opposite evidence, that you happen not to like.

The goal posts are all in their original position. Fast turf assists multiple parts of the game. It doesn't evidentially in isolation make a team 'better' in one particular phase, as much as you want it to.

Furthermore, even if it did, you still have to play 47-52% of your regular season games away in a location where this 'natural advantage' has zero bearing. Guess what wins in less than ideal field conditions more often than not? I'll give you a hint, it's not a large reliance on the passing game....
 
TribuneUK said:
No, I'm giving you a clear example of opposite evidence, that you happen not to like.

The goal posts are all in their original position. Fast turf assists multiple parts of the game. It doesn't evidentially in isolation make a team 'better' in one particular phase, as much as you want it to.
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TribuneUK said:
Furthermore, even if it did, you still have to play 47-52% of your regular season games away in a location where this 'natural advantage' has zero bearing. Guess what wins in less than ideal field conditions more often than not? I'll give you a hint, it's not a large reliance on the passing game....
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I don’t need evidence because there’s nothing to argue. It is a fact that the Saints play indoors. It is a fact that every stadium provides certain advantages. It is a fact that it’s easier to throw the ball accurately inside due to the lack of elements.

It is also a fact that the Falcons play indoors. That means a MINIMUM of 9 out of 17 games a season will be played inside. That means 100% of your regular seasons will play the majority of your games indoors.

You can say that it is an opinion that you should design your team with consideration of your natural advantages. You would be wrong but you (especially you) certainly deserve to have that wrong opinion.
 
Sorry I don't agree with you, for the reasons I and others have already given. A difference of opinion is just what it will have to remain.
 
MikeyF said:
Yep, but when you have Bobby Hebert throwing 3 INTs against the Eagles in the 2nd half & blowing a 20-7 lead...in the 1992 NFC Wild Card Game

He took a sack for a safety & he threw a pick 6... HORRIBLE!!!

Bobby Herbert was no where near a hall of fame QB!!!

Carl Smith OC... Horrible when games were on the line...
It doesn't matter how great of a D you have when you have a QB that plays this poorly in big games and you have a horrible OC!
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Hebert did blow the 92' playoff game, and Walsh was ineffective in the '90 game.

But the defense was instantly shredded in 1987, and then Pat Swilling had a killer offsides late against the Falcons in an evenly played game in '91. In that game they also gave up a bomb to Haynes and if I recall, an explosive receiver screen
 
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Saint Greg said:
If we had a hall of fame QB on the roster I might be more open to the defensive thing. We don’t. Do you think Aaron Glenn is going to help us find one? Tomlin can’t find one. And won’t win another superbowl until he does.
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A defensive coach can draft a QB and a defensive coach can have an OC and/or QB Coach that can develop at young QB. It's happened many times from Steve Young, to Payton Manning, to Tom Brady.

I would prefer an offensive HC and want to be a high scoring passing team again, but I really just want the best HC regardless of what side the ball he is on. And you can still have a great offense even if you have a defensive HC. In fact, smart defensive coaches realize that getting the lead early is the best way to play defense because you force them into throwing the ball and allows you to rush the passer more aggressively. Some defensive HC have conservative running offenses, but not all of them do and there is more than one way to win game regardless of if you play in a dome or not.

Also, not having a HoF QB on the roster would make it harder to be a team focused on offense.
 
I'd like an offense head coach because the Saints must be scoring in at least the mid-high 20's in alot of their games, and I'd prefer a head coach who is directly accountable for that.

But Loomis will choose our coach and if Aaron Glenn is his guy, there's plenty there to be excited about and rally around. If it's not AG, then the odds grow that it will be an offense coach.

Whoever they bring in as head coach.... he must be able to evaluate and develop talent, and build on or turn over a roster with limited financial resources and a limited old and and developmental young QB.

They are doing right by interviewing a big first group of guys, because they really need to hear alot of different assessments and approaches to getting this team out of the pit they are stuck in.
 

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