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Random application of logic.

When we grade a pass rusher by sacks only, they tell us it’s bigger than sacks look at the pressures.

But if you grade an OL by pressures you’re told, it’s bigger than pressure look at the sacks.

Where's the consistency in the application of data?

Or, is pressures a better indicator of success for passrushers and sacks given up a better indicator of success for Offensive lineman?
 
ELLIASJWILLIAMS said:
Random application of logic.

When we grade a pass rusher by sacks only, they tell us it’s bigger than sacks look at the pressures.

But if you grade an OL by pressures you’re told, it’s bigger than pressure look at the sacks.

Where's the consistency in the application of data?

Or, is pressures a better indicator of success for passrushers and sacks given up a better indicator of success for Offensive lineman?
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When I played ball most of my coaches used a positive & negative rating system.
To me this is a better way to evaluate players.

If a pressure resulted in a negative play... a sack by another player, a tackle for a loss due to the ball being checked down, an interception because the QB was hurried into throwing it, a incomplete pass because the QB had to throw it away, when the defensive player broke down the pocket & the QB has to scramble out of it, it would be a negative for the OL that was responsible for blocking that player or a positive for the D player. Usually after each game there was a review as well as a after season review.

The big problem with the pressures given to the OL, is the fact that it isn't always the person who is blocking the defensive player a given play was/is responsible for that block. Some OL will slide over & try to pick up a defensive pass rusher when he sees that there was a screw up in assignment & the defensive player is unblocked or about to break free...

The main problem that I have with pressures is that the first move an OT makes on a pass play is a backward move or leg kick...
His job is to drive the defensive player around the backside of the QB... OG & C don't fire out like they do on running plays. The wait to take on the rush from the DL or a blitizer...

If you are an OL on a pass first team you probably will have more pressures than an OL on a run first team...

Sacks plus QB hits are a hard stat...
Pressures are subjective...
 
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SigFreudianSlip said:
Agreed. He’s too sunshine for me a lot of the time but I love his podcast, it’s the one I watch the most, and I love his style. Seems like an awesome dude.
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ABSOLUTELY the worst Titans offensivie lineman in practice and games. NOOOO. best OL coach in the history of the league could not get him better, Bill Callahan. Lazy is a positive term for him. BS to give him a contract
 
rlpmd said:
ABSOLUTELY the worst Titans offensivie lineman in practice and games. NOOOO. best OL coach in the history of the league could not get him better, Bill Callahan. Lazy is a positive term for him. BS to give him a contract
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Ouch. I was hoping it was more of the players he had around him bringing him down as has been alluded to.

They’re my home team but I didn’t watch em last season so I sure could be wrong. Maybe he’s decent depth at least? We are very very lean at LG.
 
rlpmd said:
ABSOLUTELY the worst Titans offensivie lineman in practice and games. NOOOO. best OL coach in the history of the league could not get him better, Bill Callahan. Lazy is a positive term for him. BS to give him a contract
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Didn’t he play next to THE worst ranked RT in the league?
 
rlpmd said:
ABSOLUTELY the worst Titans offensivie lineman in practice and games. NOOOO. best OL coach in the history of the league could not get him better, Bill Callahan. Lazy is a positive term for him. BS to give him a contract
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Do everyone remember Jeff Faine? He was consider a bust by the Browns where they paid Bentley. Then they basically gave him to the Saints you put him between Evans and Nicks and he was named a pro bowl alternate and then the highest paid center in the game by the Bucs surpassing the guy who replaced him. I not saying we have Evans or Nicks on the team, but I saw a video where someone pointed out having him between Fuaga and McCoy he may go to the next level. Look at Becton last year. He was a bust with the Jets and one year with a good line and everyone here wanted him. I wanted to kick the tires last year to replace Penning. If the coaches thinks he can come in and start I'm down.
 
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RaisingTheBar said:
Didn’t he play next to THE worst ranked RT in the league?
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Yes and mostly due to draft status was maybe the worst OL,, but that Right side shucked totally. I went to plenty of practices and have former Titan coaches among my friends that I cook cajun for. Skip any Titan cast offs. Bill Callahan gave up on em and is hoping for a good draft and free agency. Total negative to sign Radunz. The sports jocks in town are celebrating his departure daily.
 
rlpmd said:
Yes and mostly due to draft status was maybe the worst OL,, but that Right side shucked totally. I went to plenty of practices and have former Titan coaches among my friends that I cook cajun for. Skip any Titan cast offs. Bill Callahan gave up on em and is hoping for a good draft and free agency. Total negative to sign Radunz. The sports jocks in town are celebrating his departure daily.
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Thanks for the insight
 
I'll tell you what he is. He is depth along with Will Clapp. You can draft a LG and he can back him up. He was the guy we needed to have on the team last year when Patrick went down.
 

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