Foo Fighters suck, change my mind. (1 Viewer)

[itztime]

Couldn't find the Nirvana one so I have posted the Foo Fighters.

 

[sfidc3]

I love Alice in Chains.. Pearl Jam and Nirvana are fine too.. but objectively I think Soundgarden was probably the best thing to come out of the Seattle Sound/grunge scene.

I liked STP better than all of them…from a musician’s POV their music was more complex than any of those bands and Weiland was a great frontman….

Also using RS rating anything is an absolute joke….total rag of a once decent magazine….they haven’t had a real relevant music critic in years….

 

[cpg]

Because they're not that good of a band. They're fine. They don't deserve anywhere even remotely near the praise they get. Sure they're the premier grunge band but that aint saying much. Talk about an inconsequential flash in the pan genre.

Grunge was a genre for its time and its place, but that's where it should stay. I mean what other truly meaningful impact on music did grunge have other than being the spiritual predeccesor to 2000's butt rock? The hollow shell of rock music that is post-grunge that we all had to suffer through and really haven't recovered from since. Yea ya know all those bands that sound like something Trey Parker created as a joke? That's the legacy grunge left. Bleck.

I think it's fair to assume you're Gen X? I totally understand why you feel this way about them but no one outside of that specific period of time gives a sheet about grunge. Nirvana's ok, I don't hate Nirvana, but we need to stop pretending like they're some transcendent legendary band.

As for the "lowest point in human history" that really just sounds like an "Old Man Yells At Cloud" situation. Big "back in MY day!" energy. Huge "get off my lawn" vibes. There's tons of good music, TV, movies, art out there. Like every other period in time, the popular stuff is rarely the good stuff, but it's always out there.

Attempting to qualify the legacy of grunge to the 2000’s nu metal dreck, is no different than saying Rage Against the Machine’s legacy is defined by Limp Bizkit or The Beatles legacy is defined by The Monkeez. Woefully shortsighted. The music churned out by major labels in the wake of grunge was a corporate reaction and a desperate attempt to capitalize off the unforeseen success of that movement. I don’t think any other genre should be judged by what was popular in the 10-15 year period immediately following, so doing it here just feels weird. That you attempt to assign this as the legacy of grunge is especially strange given your statement of “the popular stuff is rarely the good stuff.”

And really, when most people reference grunge music, they are talking about 4 bands: Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Alice In Chains. Four bands that had very few similarities sonically and whose relationship to one another was mostly based on proximity and a very general aesthetic. Frequently riot grrrl acts are lumped into this, unfortunately and incorrectly.

The assertion that Nirvana “doesn’t deserve nearly the amount of praise that they get” should really be taken up with the endless and ever-growing list of artists that routinely list them as an influence. And that certainly extends from artists in hardcore to heavy metal to hip hop. You might not like them (I don’t really listen to them), but your favorite artists probably do. Obviously this is well beyond just some Gen X love affair, considering the increasingly obvious influence they have on modern punk, hardcore, and rock genres respectively. The legacy of the grunge and riot grrrl movements are still very much being written. Whether you are listening to it or not doesn’t change that.

 

[cpg]

And people wonder why modern music is so bad......

It really isn’t. I think you might just be looking in the wrong places.

 

[sonicboom]

It really isn’t. I think you might just be looking in the wrong places.

Sorta like this?

 

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

Attempting to qualify the legacy of grunge to the 2000’s nu metal dreck, is no different than saying Rage Against the Machine’s legacy is defined by Limp Bizkit or The Beatles legacy is defined by The Monkeez. Woefully shortsighted. The music churned out by major labels in the wake of grunge was a corporate reaction and a desperate attempt to capitalize off the unforeseen success of that movement. I don’t think any other genre should be judged by what was popular in the 10-15 year period immediately following, so doing it here just feels weird. That you attempt to assign this as the legacy of grunge is especially strange given your statement of “the popular stuff is rarely the good stuff.”

And really, when most people reference grunge music, they are talking about 4 bands: Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Alice In Chains. Four bands that had very few similarities sonically and whose relationship to one another was mostly based on proximity and a very general aesthetic. Frequently riot grrrl acts are lumped into this, unfortunately and incorrectly.

The assertion that Nirvana “doesn’t deserve nearly the amount of praise that they get” should really be taken up with the endless and ever-growing list of artists that routinely list them as an influence. And that certainly extends from artists in hardcore to heavy metal to hip hop. You might not like them (I don’t really listen to them), but your favorite artists probably do. Obviously this is well beyond just some Gen X love affair, considering the increasingly obvious influence they have on modern punk, hardcore, and rock genres respectively. The legacy of the grunge and riot grrrl movements are still very much being written. Whether you are listening to it or not doesn’t change that.

Generation X was a punk band. That Billy Idol guy fronted it.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

And people wonder why modern music is so bad......

No , old people wonder that just like they’ve done for millennia

 

[sonicboom]

Attempting to qualify the legacy of grunge to the 2000’s nu metal dreck, is no different than saying Rage Against the Machine’s legacy is defined by Limp Bizkit or The Beatles legacy is defined by The Monkeez. Woefully shortsighted. The music churned out by major labels in the wake of grunge was a corporate reaction and a desperate attempt to capitalize off the unforeseen success of that movement. I don’t think any other genre should be judged by what was popular in the 10-15 year period immediately following, so doing it here just feels weird. That you attempt to assign this as the legacy of grunge is especially strange given your statement of “the popular stuff is rarely the good stuff.”

And really, when most people reference grunge music, they are talking about 4 bands: Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Alice In Chains. Four bands that had very few similarities sonically and whose relationship to one another was mostly based on proximity and a very general aesthetic. Frequently riot grrrl acts are lumped into this, unfortunately and incorrectly.

The assertion that Nirvana “doesn’t deserve nearly the amount of praise that they get” should really be taken up with the endless and ever-growing list of artists that routinely list them as an influence. And that certainly extends from artists in hardcore to heavy metal to hip hop. You might not like them (I don’t really listen to them), but your favorite artists probably do. Obviously this is well beyond just some Gen X love affair, considering the increasingly obvious influence they have on modern punk, hardcore, and rock genres respectively. The legacy of the grunge and riot grrrl movements are still very much being written. Whether you are listening to it or not doesn’t change that.

Seems well thought out to me. Nirvana was influenced by the Melvins, so I would add at least one more to your list of 4. Yes, they didn't get the same attention, but still the pioneers.

Stone Temple Pilots is from San Diego, California.

 

[sfidc3]

Stone Temple Pilots is from San Diego, California.

Don’t understand why that matters….

 

[sonicboom]

Don’t understand why that matters….

Has anyone ever asked you, where you are from?

Maybe ask a mod, why saints report wants to know where people are from?

 

[sonicboom]

No , old people wonder that just like they’ve done for millennia

NIce one guido.

Learn any new dance moves?

 

[livefromDC]

It's either here or the Nirvana baby lawsuit thread...

 

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

Weird Al parody was much more entertaining.

 

[sonicboom]

Mudhoney also was part of the scene. In this video, you can see Krist Novoselic at the 1 minute, and 28 second mark.

Didn't know he was in there, until I watched the video. By the way, never really liked Mudhoney. I put them in the Beck Dinosaur Jr. category of noise rock.





Kurt Cobain got credited for producing this Melvins album.

 

[sonicboom]

Last bit on Stone Temple Pilots........

Scott Weiland left 'enormous debt' when he died​

Scott Weiland left 'enormous debt' when he died

Scott Weiland's widow Jamie says she's unlikely to get money from singer's estate

www.loudersound.com

Net worth: $2 Million

Scott Weiland Net Worth

What is Scott Weiland's net worth?

www.celebritynetworth.com

Kurt Cobain's estate....

The estate is worth a grand total of $450 million

Who Inherited More From Kurt Cobain: Frances Bean Or Courtney Love?

One of them was granted a major role in his estate but the other may have received more money.

www.thethings.com