From a Mental Standpoint, Would You Be Prepared for a Full Tear Down? (3 Viewers)

[Nashville Saint]

I was ready when Drew was contemplating leaving in 2020 after the divisional round loss to Tampa but I do remember being attacked on here over the thought of a rebuild now look how those tables have turned

 

[liveoakh]

Depends on who that QB is. I’d feel pretty good if it were Stroud. I’d feel prettty good if I were a bears fan sitting with two top 3 picks.

I guarantee you panthers fans aren’t happy to have traded their top offensive player and a ton of draft capital for what seems to not have been the cream of the QB crop.

And now they’re going to have the top pick in the draft but it’s going to belong to the bears? The Panthers screwed themselves.

We know they weren’t expecting that otherwise they wouldn’t have fired their coach in his first season.

For the second straight year, Frank Reich has been fired midseason. Panthers owner David Tepper announced Monday morning he had fired Reich as the team's head coach, following Sunday's 17-10 loss to the Titans that dropped the Panthers to a league-worst 1-10 in Reich's first season with the team.2 days ago

Frank Riche may not be a good head coach, he is a good guy and really didn't deserve to be fired mid season 2x in a row. The panthers (Tepper) are pure trash and will be losers as long as he owns the team.

My feeling is, when it warrants it, you can fire a coach after the 1st year. You are willing to admit, you missed and you are correcting the error. But firing a coach mid season in his 1st year, says more about an incompetent owner, than the coach he fired.

 

[lilvipa221]

The alternative for the Saints is to be old and washed up with debt getting 5-7 wins a season and no hope of being competitive on the horizon. So yeah I'd rather a purposeful rebuild than that option. But I do not think Ireland and Loomis are the guys to orchestrate it but Loomis runs the whole organization so he'd have to relieve himself from his duties.

 

[NatureBoy]

Make it happen Loomis!

 

[Saint Spud]

More than ready. Purgatory is worse than hitting bottom.

 

[St4ever]

2 years? Itll take 3 years just to dump the vets. We‘d have to get lucky and strike gold on a QB. Of the QBs taken this year only Stroud hit. And he was drafted second overall. We’d have to revamp Our D because its outdated to the new NFL where youth and speed is required on D to chase down mobile QBs. ( Getting rid of Ellis was a bad move. ) And if we hit on a Qb, would our oline be able to protect a rookie? Our tear down and rebuild is a 5 year project.

Not in today’s NFL where teams can become productive with better coaching. Our coaching is horrendous to say the least. I get you want to dump older players and suffer all the cap loss quickly but keeping some around can still work out if we add some really good ones to the mix. No reason in our division that we still cannot compete within two years besides what coach you going to give the reins to and tell you have five years to make it work? Really are we going to go the route and pull a panthers and just change coaches every year until we clear our cap?

 

[Rexman100]

Not in today’s NFL where teams can become productive with better coaching. Our coaching is horrendous to say the least. I get you want to dump older players and suffer all the cap loss quickly but keeping some around can still work out if we add some really good ones to the mix. No reason in our division that we still cannot compete within two years besides what coach you going to give the reins to and tell you have five years to make it work? Really are we going to go the route and pull a panthers and just change coaches every year until we clear our cap?

Who would you try and get as a coach? I think youre being overly optimistic. The only way i see it working under your scenerio is bringing in Gruden that already knows the systems and is a QB whisperer for Carr. Someone that can leverage Carr into playing better. Or someone like Harbough that you simply hand over the keys and say do what you have to do. A hot comodity but unproven coach will be selective, and we'll have to compete for him.

 

[Bill]

Can we realistically tear it down? With some of the current contracts, it would be pretty tuff.

Being mentally prepared definitely requires that we understand that this WON'T be an overnight 'teardown'. It'll be three to four years before we will even be mentioned in playoff conversations. This is being realistic. Please don't fool yourself.

 

[26ISTHEMAN]

Let's say we went the Panthers or Bears route and got a top pick, a quarterback. In his first year, he struggles, and we're winless by Week 12. How would you deal with it from a mental aspect? Would you still complain? Over the past two seasons, I've heard a lot about how this team should be deconstructed from top to bottom. But I've always wondered if folks really want to deal with a year of losing and no playoff berth in sight.

I could deal with this scenario a lot easier than the status quo.

 

[SubmarineMike]

Would be interesting for the NFL to have a “tear down mode” where as long as a team jettisoned, say, 75 percent of their top 20 highest paid players they could reset their cap regardless of contracts.

 

[solarbear88]

Yeah. I think we need to rebuild. In today's day and age it is pretty much inevitable. Mickey is still managing the team like it is 2015.

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

Yes--if I believe we have the right people in place at the top of the organization going forward. If Loomis is the general manager, it doesn't matter.

 

[jasonsw]

No one ever does a complete tear down. What realistically almost always happens is this. Get rid of old aging players for draft picks. Keep your cheap young talent. Most important above all, get the Qb right.

 

[St4ever]

Who would you try and get as a coach? I think youre being overly optimistic. The only way i see it working under your scenerio is bringing in Gruden that already knows the systems and is a QB whisperer for Carr. Someone that can leverage Carr into playing better. Or someone like Harbough that you simply hand over the keys and say do what you have to do. A hot comodity but unproven coach will be selective, and we'll have to compete for him.

Not sure which coach but I am not tying my hopes to Carr. I’m telling whatever coach takes the position that we wil allow his to pick his QB in the Draft even if it means trading future picks to do so. That player and Carr can fight it out for the starting position or he can sit a year behind Carr if need be. Let the Coach do what is needed but not wait one or two years trying to deal with Carr. That mistake has already been made and nothing we can do about it so he can sit his arse on the bench if he cannot perform. If we’re going to be out money then he can sit and be a back up because of his play, if he don’t like it tough, but I am not releasing him to go play somewhere else and make more money.