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[gummbo70114]

I really don't want to get into this, but the problem is inflation and the fact that corporate greed won't allow you to raise wages for the lowest skilled jobs (or any jobs for that matter) without it resulting in inflation.

If you pay a Walmart greeter and other similar jobs $75K per year then there will be massive inflation and $75K per year will quickly become less than a living wage. So, it's much more complicated than you are implying. In fact, in the end, the real issue is probably inflation, not actual wages. The value of money is what needs to increase but, of course, that is easier said than done when companies large and small care so much about making more profit.

I don't have the solution to this because it is incredibly complicated. Constantly increasing wages only makes the cost of things go up and it means no matter how high the wages go, some people will still not make a living wage because the value of the money they make is ever decreasing due to company's increasing the cost to continue making crazy profits despite the increase in their cost.

Even starting a Socialist revolution and seizing the Walton family money and re-distributing it to the masses will result in the same inflation and the same problems with greedy people wanting more than other people. The problem is people and their inherent greedy natures, not any specific economic or social system.

This is exactly what I had stated in one of my other post, it’s the human condition of wanting more and more and more, and not being satisfied with just enough.

 

[gummbo70114]

If it isn't complicated then it should be no problem giving a direct, fact based answer to my two questions.

Perhaps going back to the barter system, would take care of the situation

 

[St. Widge]

This is exactly what I had stated in one of my other post, it’s the human condition of wanting more and more and more, and not being satisfied with just enough.

Then I guess we agree. I mean, it's likely part of what allowed us to become the dominant species on the planet up to this point. Then again, it could also cause us to go extinct at some point.

 

[Dago]

I have no problem with the idea of taxing the wealthy more...but only after we see some real budgeting and fiscal accountability with the revenue the government already receives.

Just recently it has come to light that one state spent $26 billion to combat homelessness and can't account for where the money went or how effectively it was spent. That is literally enough to give every homeless person a check for $140,000+ and we don't know how it was spent or how effective it was?

It has to start with accountability at the top

 

[St. Widge]

I have no problem with the idea of taxing the wealthy more...but only after we see some real budgeting and fiscal accountability with the revenue the government already receives.

Just recently it has come to light that one state spent $26 billion to combat homelessness and can't account for where the money went or how effectively it was spent. That is literally enough to give every homeless person a check for $140,000+ and we don't know how it was spent or how effective it was?

It has to start with accountability at the top

I don't disagree that we need to eliminate corruption and inefficiencies in government, but I think we also need to reform the tax code. The truth is that the truly wealthy can manipulate the tax laws to pay next to no taxes where lower, middle class, and upper middle class, pay their fair share if not more than their fair share in taxes. I know it gets push back, but I think the real solution is a flat percentage of what you make from whatever source being paid by each person, and corporation which are juridical persons, with no write offs, deductions, etc. By making it a percentage, those who make less pay less and those who make more pay more but since it's a percentage, I think that's fair.

This will take a lot of money out of politics and a lot of corruption out of government. Which, of course is why it will never happen because Congress looses a lot of power to raise campaign funds if they can't promise tax breaks and lots of patronage jobs would go away in government if we didn't have an overly complicated tax code.

By the way, this thread is now way off the rails and we probably need to stop jacking this thread.

 

[Dago]

I don't disagree that we need to eliminate corruption and inefficiencies in government, but I think we also need to reform the tax code. The truth is that the truly wealthy can manipulate the tax laws to pay next to no taxes where lower, middle class, and upper middle class, pay their fair share if not more than their fair share in taxes. I know it gets push back, but I think the real solution is a flat percentage of what you make from whatever source being paid by each person, and corporation which are juridical persons, with no write offs, deductions, etc. By making it a percentage, those who make less pay less and those who make more pay more but since it's a percentage, I think that's fair.

This will take a lot of money out of politics and a lot of corruption out of government. Which, of course is why it will never happen because Congress looses a lot of power to raise campaign funds if they can't promise tax breaks and lots of patronage jobs would go away in government if we didn't have an overly complicated tax code.

By the way, this thread is now way off the rails and we probably need to stop jacking this thread.

Agreed

 

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

A rising tide lifts all boats.

Even the sunken or dry docked ones?

 

[Tapxe]

This is exactly what I had stated in one of my other post, it’s the human condition of wanting more and more and more, and not being satisfied with just enough.

You don't use that tax money to increase Walmart wages. You use that money to provide jobs and services to the population.

Things like fixing municipal water systems. Repair of failing bridges. High-speed rail projects or even teacher pay etc. You know things that make life nicer for tax payers rather than .01% of the population.

 

[0rion]

This "funny memes" thread has gotten pretty unfunny.
Ps
Why will it not allow me to insert full images anymore?

 

[Dago]

You don't use that tax money to increase Walmart wages. You use that money to provide jobs and services to the population.

Things like fixing municipal water systems. Repair of failing bridges. High-speed rail projects or even teacher pay etc. You know things that make life nicer for tax payers rather than .01% of the population.

Not wanting to further throw this thread off but I did want to cosign this

 

[HoustonSaint68]

By the way, this thread is now way off the rails and we probably need to stop jacking this thread.

Yeah guys, that’s enough. Take it to the inflation thread if you want to continue the discussion.

 

[Dago]

This "funny memes" thread has gotten pretty unfunny.
Ps
Why will it not allow me to insert full images anymore?

I wonder if that would also work for the chips Bill Gates put in us

 

[Dago]

Yeah guys, that’s enough. Take it to the inflation thread if you want to continue the discussion.

I simultaneously comply and defy

 

[Infoman]

 

[SaintRob]