HB71 - Requires Louisiana Schools to display the 10 commandments passes with Bipartisan Support 82 - 19 (1 Viewer)

[DaveXA]

The best way to arouse passion and fear in people is to convince them they are under existential threat.

Yep, works pretty well in Russia. Works here too.

 

[Taurus]

I mean, it's not the original basis for today's laws. Laws against murder, stealing, etc. existed long before the Ten Commandments and there are no laws against Blasphemy, Adultery, and a few of the others unless you are under Sharia Law.

And, in Louisiana if you want to put up the basis of our law you should be putting up the Siete Partidas, not the Ten Commandments. And Hammurabi's Code pre-dated both of them.

But, yes, this is a clear violation of the establishment clause of the First Amendment and will no doubt be struck down after Jeff Landry's friends at private law firms make hundreds of thousands of dollars defending a law that everyone knows is not Constitutional.

The First Commandment and the First Amendment are directly contradictory.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

I attended a local city council meeting on the north shore on Thursday. It was very well attended by the general public, as the council was set to vote on two ordinances that meant a lot to people. The meetings all begin with the Pledge of Allegiance but that night was the first time I'd heard multiple people say, "Amen!" afterward. It was creepy, to be honest.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I attended a local city council meeting on the north shore on Thursday. It was very well attended by the general public, as the council was set to vote on two ordinances that meant a lot to people. The meetings all begin with the Pledge of Allegiance but that night was the first time I'd heard multiple people say, "Amen!" afterward. It was creepy, to be honest.

fwiw, Northshore will have its first pride march on June 1 - I’m going to try to head up to give support

 

[Heathen Saint]

Blatantly unconstitutional

These folks would want a theocracy if they could have it here, but will blast Islamic countries for being the same.

 

[DaveXA]

Blatantly unconstitutional

These folks would want a theocracy if they could have it here, but will blast Islamic countries for being the same.

Yeah, if anything, as a Christian, I'd want to be free to practice my own religion without anyone bothering me about it and I don't want to bother anyone about how they practice theirs, or nothing at all, unless they ask or I ask.

I certainly don't want a theocracy of any kind. The problem with a theocracy is that no one stays in power forever and theocracies tend to do a sheet job of protecting everyone.

 

[Heathen Saint]

Yeah, if anything, as a Christian, I'd want to be free to practice my own religion without anyone bothering me about it and I don't want to bother anyone about how they practice theirs, or nothing at all, unless they ask or I ask.

I certainly don't want a theocracy of any kind. The problem with a theocracy is that no one stays in power forever and theocracies tend to do a sheet job of protecting everyone.

Right, and that is the rational viewpoint most have I think. Instances like this makes every other member of that religion look bad, but it’s not isolated, unfortunately. Having lived in the South most my life, I feel so many people would be somewhere between “don’t know but don’t care” and “wholeheartedly support” that it’s very troublesome.

I’m not blasting all Christians at all. But I’ll absolutely always push back consistently against the ones who try to reinforce a radical religious agenda or are fine with it being pushed.

I will always support the freedom to practice religion, just not the freedom to prioritize it over others to the point it starts interfering in our government or is pushed on our kids outside the home unfairly.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

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fwiw, Northshore will have its first pride march on June 1 - I’m going to try to head up to give support

I know! That's why i was there.

Thanks for the support!

 

[faceman]

The best way to arouse passion and fear in people is to convince them they are under existential threat.

Yeah, my favorite is they are coming to take my guns.

 

[kcirdor]

damn he couldn't even handle half the guilt.

 

[zeetes]

schools should also be required to post Hammurabi's Code as well

that would be badass. would we even need attorneys?

 

[saintmdterps]

And this in addition to each classroom having to post "In God We Trust"? If I'm being made to do that, I'm going to put it up in Arabic just to see what happens.

Just say “As Salaam Aleikum” and see what happens

 

[saintmdterps]

Yeah...what good does it do to post the 10 Commandments when a significant portion of our students can't even read it?

And legislators don’t abide by it

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

I personally believe this is more appropriate for Louisiana school children.

 

[SystemShock]

Religion should be taught in the respective Churches/Houses of Worship/Home and encouraged to be practiced in public which includes schools.

I don't think religion should be encouraged at all, much less to be practiced in public.

As far as teaching religion, that depends on what do you mean by teaching religion. If you mean catechism/Sunday school, yeah, keep that in your church/home. But, teaching religion from an anthropological and historical perspective, that's different.

When I first learned I had to take 3 semesters of religion at Loyola, I thought it was going to be catechism.. Much to my surprise, the first thing we touched upon was Hinduism (I still remember Siddhartha's tunic was green). There is value in learning how religions have affected societies throughout history, without preaching a particular religion. I do believe that, the more people learn about other religions from an anthropological and historical perspective, the more they'll realize all gods are human inventions.