HOF Chances Among Active Coaches According To The 33RD Team (1 Viewer)

[Saint Jack]

Accurate? Payton looks likely.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

No DA?

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Rivera? No way.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Rivera? No way.

None of the hmms deserve even a look at the possibility of going into the HOF.

 

[Jesse Custer]

If Payton gets in, Tomlin has to. I can think of few coaches who've had the long term consistency he has.

 

[Alan12]

McVay would need another 10+ seasons like his first 5 seasons to even have a shot. It's just too short of a period they were good (4 years) to even consider him.

Shanahan will always be remembered as the 28-3 guy as an OC short of a Belicheckian reign for the next 20 decades and even then it'll still get brought up.

Pederson's Eagles teams were just too hot and cold, but as we saw in 2017 how hot they got. If he can keep the Jaguars competitive how he got them now, he's a real possibility.

McDermott has a real chance. If he can keep a solid defense for Josh Allen, they can dominate the AFC East for the next decade easily. He's already well on his way with a .639 win %. If he wins Buffalo a Super Bowl, he'll probably be a lock.

McCarthy I'm meh on. He has the win % and Super Bowl, but how much of that was from having Brett Favre straight into Aaron Rodgers in his prime? I know he's had two good seasons with Dallas since but I don't know. I guess he is close and could get closer depending on how the next few years play out.

Rivera shouldn't even be on this list. Dude is essentially Jeff Fisher (.521 win % to Fisher's .512) with both having mediocre stints at their first stop that kept them on for longer than they should have followed by putrid stops with their second teams. He also only had 3 winning seasons to Fisher's 6.

 

[Doug B]

Rivera? No way.

Rivera won’t get in. However, on looking at HOF chances, I found some interesting comparisons.

For instance, a challenge to the house - Place the following five coaches in order from most all-time regular season wins to least:

Ron Rivera
Bum Phillips
Lovie Smith
Jack Del Rio
Bill Walsh

…

I also didn’t realize that Mike McCarthy has three more regular season wins than Sean Payton.

 

[David Robbins]

Accurate? Payton looks likely.

Mike McCarthy. Give me a break

 

[David Robbins]

For instance, a challenge to the house - Place the following five coaches in order from most all-time regular season wins to least:

Ron Rivera
Bum Phillips
Lovie Smith
Jack Del Rio
Bill Walsh

…

I'll try:

Bill Walsh
Bum Phillips
Ron Rivera
Jack del Rio
Lovie Smith

 

[Saint Jack]

Rivera won’t get in. However, on looking at HOF chances, I found some interesting comparisons.

For instance, a challenge to the house - Place the following five coaches in order from most all-time regular season wins to least:

Ron Rivera
Bum Phillips
Lovie Smith
Jack Del Rio
Bill Walsh

…

I also didn’t realize that Mike McCarthy has three more regular season wins than Sean Payton.

But Payton still has the better winning percentage.

 

[Doug B]

But Payton still has the better winning percentage.

Indeed — but their resumes are a lot more similar than you’d think if you were just casually throwing names around. Payton’s resume, of course, has been hamstrung by 2012 and by those three no-defense years 2014-16.

Still think Payton walks right into the HOF when it’s time. McCarthy probably gets in, too, without waiting too long. Tomlinson will get in first-ballot.

 

[Doug B]

I'll try:

Bill Walsh
Bum Phillips
Ron Rivera
Jack del Rio
Lovie Smith

One of those five is In the right position.

 

[David Robbins]

One of those five is In the right position.

Then what's the proper order. I was just guessing

 

[Snakehead]

I also didn’t realize that Mike McCarthy has three more regular season wins than Sean Payton.

He also has 1 season/13 more games coached to get those 3 wins.

 

[Saintman2884]

Indeed — but their resumes are a lot more similar than you’d think if you were just casually throwing names around. Payton’s resume, of course, has been hamstrung by 2012 and by those three no-defense years 2014-16.

Still think Payton walks right into the HOF when it’s time. McCarthy probably gets in, too, without waiting too long. Tomlinson will get in first-ballot.

I still have some doubts about whether McCarthy gets in, automatically. I agree he'll get in eventually, but there will be some pushback, from some writers, pollsters who'll view his overall win-loss resume as a byproduct of being the HC of two, legendary HOF QB's who he should have won more SB's with or had more post-season success with. Who's to say some NFL writers, voters won't conveniently forget about his career like they seemingly have with Mike Shanahan, who won two SB's and reigned over a mostly successful, playoff-caliber team for well over a decade in Denver.

I mean, throughout the 2010's Packers teams, how many of those playoff losses, especially 2012, 2014 and 2015, came down to poor, gameplanning, terrible, late-game executions, awful situational awareness. In the cases of GB's 2011-12, 2014-15 losses, much of the blame has to fall partly on Mike McCarthy's shoulders. NFC West HC's like Jim Harbaugh and Pete Carroll systematically made him look like a fat meathead who's clueless, and inept and winning close, meaningful playoff games. Kyle Shanahan has masterfully, intelligently coached rings around McCarthy's Cowboys the past two post-seasons, showed him to be the same, mostly mediocre HC he always was in GB, got lucky for one season, and then just stagnated for well over a decade now.

Sean Payton should get in, too but I do believe there are some pundits out there who want to see just how smart, savvy, and intelligent of a playmaker Payton will be without his right arm, i.e. Brees. If Payton can make Denver respectable, or a perennial playoff contender again, stuck in a very, very tough, ultra-competitive AFC West, even his most vociferous, bitterest critics he just wasnt a very good, successful, elaborate one-trick pony with a future HOF QB who's considered one of the smartest, cerebral to ever play the position.