I wanna blame someone… (2 Viewers)

[Saintslfc13]

I’m obviously being super cynical man….

The issue is we don’t kick the FG twice…. We leave points on the field twice. And we end up in that situation.

If you’re going to leave them a minute with no timeouts…. And we all know what happens to the Saints defense when you do that…. Either kick all the FGs, or run the clock down until it’s either you score or you lose. I mean, the alternative has been like clock work…. Leave points…. Scrabble and score…. Leave time…. Other team beats you.

It’s like the same bad movie

We've all seen that movie before but we play it the other way and Allen's getting roasted regardless, the man can't win unless his players win.

 

[Taker597]

I’m obviously being super cynical man….

The issue is we don’t kick the FG twice…. We leave points on the field twice. And we end up in that situation.

If you’re going to leave them a minute with no timeouts…. And we all know what happens to the Saints defense when you do that…. Either kick all the FGs, or run the clock down until it’s either you score or you lose. I mean, the alternative has been like clock work…. Leave points…. Scrabble and score…. Leave time…. Other team beats you.

It’s like the same bad movie

Believe we was only able to force a punt was because ATL got super conservative on the 5 yard line. I don't think kicking a FG would be a better outcome.

We played out hand right till we left a minute on the clock on an injured defense

 

[Infoman]

We've all seen that movie before but we play it the other way and Allen's getting roasted regardless, the man can't win unless his players win.

I like aggressive…. But I prefer aggressive with a smart purpose. At some point - and he’s been here for a minute - you have to know your team…. Where they excel and where they falter…. And make the decisions that save them from themselves - or play against their weaknesses. We don’t get that. This a my way or the highway outfit…. And far too many times it’s the highway

 

[Infoman]

Believe we was only able to force a punt was because ATL got super conservative on the 5 yard line. I don't think kicking a FG would be a better outcome.

We played out hand right till we left a minute on the clock on an injured defense

Twice man. Twice we passed on FGs. After doing the same nonsense last week. With the same outcome. I’m not concerned with what they might do after. Play to your strengths. Don’t be aggressive just to say you were aggressive in a post game loss presser.

 

[Elvis]

Agreed.
It’s very risky but I knew (most of us did) that it was the only shot we had. I’d rather lose that way than the way we did, as it’s getting old.

I find it so bizarre that some can be so nonchalant talking about how the defense kept them out of the end zone all game yet we also have some that don't trust the defense to not lose the game with 60 seconds on the clock. Both are true but it feels like people are picking one side or another and not both. Why can't the defense get both credit for keeping us in it for a lot of the game, but also blame for inexplicably allowing the winning score? They are not a winning defense right now. They need two score leads at the end to win.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

I find it so bizarre that some can be so nonchalant talking about how the defense kept them out of the end zone all game yet we also have some that don't trust the defense to not lose the game with 60 seconds on the clock. Both are true but it feels like people are picking one side or another and not both. Why can't the defense get both credit for keeping us in it for a lot of the game, but also blame for inexplicably allowing the winning score? They are not a winning defense right now. They need two score leads at the end to win.

I totally agree with your point. It’s odd to me as well.

 

[SaintsFanInLA]

We’re going to lose to KC badly, aren’t we?

I believe so.

 

[gtaz21]

I blame myself ... for watching.

 

[gtaz21]

The obvious weakness on the defense is NOT Adebo or the pass coverage. It's the pass rush. We cannot generate pressure. PERIOD. Anytime we get a sack, it's a coverage sack. This baffles me because it looked to me like pass rush would be our strength coming out of preseason.

 

[Infoman]

The obvious weakness on the defense is NOT Adebo or the pass coverage. It's the pass rush. We cannot generate pressure. PERIOD. Anytime we get a sack, it's a coverage sack. This baffles me because it looked to me like pass rush would be our strength coming out of preseason.

True. Outside of Granderson…. Our leader in sacks is a DB….

 

[Taker597]

Twice man. Twice we passed on FGs. After doing the same nonsense last week. With the same outcome. I’m not concerned with what they might do after. Play to your strengths. Don’t be aggressive just to say you were aggressive in a post game loss presser.

We only passed on one FG this past game huh

 

[Taker597]

I find it so bizarre that some can be so nonchalant talking about how the defense kept them out of the end zone all game yet we also have some that don't trust the defense to not lose the game with 60 seconds on the clock. Both are true but it feels like people are picking one side or another and not both. Why can't the defense get both credit for keeping us in it for a lot of the game, but also blame for inexplicably allowing the winning score? They are not a winning defense right now. They need two score leads at the end to win.

They really should be able to see these two things aren't mutually exclusive. They can be both and a lot of it is trying a particular coverage set that spells disaster.

Which is so basic. Like you know they are gonna throw the kitchen sink with 29 seconds left like for a down field PI.

Maybe it's the safety situation, but I don't understand why they didn't deep zone them to death..

 

[Bourbon]

Bad coaches get thrown off by injuries...

Bad coaches lose close games...


We have a bad coach. Our only hope is to lose enough to get rid of him...otherwise, we're in football purgatory for years.

 

[Saintman2884]

Clock management at the end?

I wanted one more play to run off more time.

That's taking a huge chance and an enormous gamble that seems like a good idea in the moment and maybe, MAYBE if Taysom hadn't been injured, you consider the option but even their, there's still no guarantee even Hill finds a way to blast through those Falcons defenders on 4th down, but even if we kill 35 more seconds, Atlanta probably still finds a way to get the ball on their 30 and we've all seen how Cousins is the King of the Bullshirt comeback. Hes learned to be very good at it for years now where he tells his WR's, TE's in the last 1:00 of a game down by a TD or less to deliberately "draw" pass interference plays that go for 30-40 yards, just far enough that after 1-2 plays of 3 or 4 plays, their strong-leggrd PK comes out and bails his and his sorry arse teams out. In these sort of cases, unfortunately, you have to score when the opportunity presents itself even if that means a little too much clock that your concerned your opponent might use to beat you. There was no scenario here where he could've scored with 10 seconds left. I hate and despise GD bullshirt scenarios as much as the next person, but when there's other palpable alternative, you chose what you hope is the best available option.


How many times did he pull a similar stunt like this in Washington and Minnesota at the last second? He and Joe Flacco did this for years in Baltimore where they bum-forked along for 3 1/2 quarters and made sure their defenses kept it close against good teams. Then on their last offensive drive, some stupid, dumbarse DB or CB always manages to bail them out by roughing up or interfering with one of their WR's near the opponent's red-zone, they get a few first downs or none at all but their close enough within range that Justin Tucker, or Koo nails some FG some, swarmy FOX Sports announcers scream and swear, "It's a GD miracle, we're shocked and amazed that ____,,,,, PK could do that". They give their worst, annoying Gus Johnson impressions (and hes annoying, too sometimes) acting like their wives just gave birth to their firstborn children.

 

[Saintman2884]

Bad coaches get thrown off by injuries...

Bad coaches lose close games...


We have a bad coach. Our only hope it to lose enough to get rid of him...otherwise, we're in football purgatory for years.

Mike Vrabel was a good HC. Yet his last year in Tennessee proved again that both happen to you and still lose your job. It's not just bad HC's who have to face terrible injury situations and lose close games with or without them being a problem.

Sometimes, you can be a very good HC and have the worst, ill-timed sheettiest consistently bad luck in close games.and 50%, it's not really your fault. Other times, its a situation where you're a very good HC like Mora was here for so long but you're facing a great, future HOF HC and a great, Dynasty team whose very, very great and you'd be lucky enough to beat them some of the time.