If hired, who’d be Mike McCarthy’s OC hire? (1 Viewer)

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If he was a Super Bowl winning coach recently he would not be looking at the Saints.
 
St. Geezy said:
These concerns are in fact NOT valid…

2021: Led NFL in PPG and YPG
2022: 4th in NFL in PPG and 10th in YPG
2023: Led NFL in PPG and 5th in YPG
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Man if MM can bring the leadership and a progressive youngish OC, maybe he has the feeling this might be one of his last opportunities to coach. Idk. But with the full backing of Saints upper management and the support of the rabid, best fans in New Orleans, I’m starting to get excited. Now let me get the cart back behind the horse and see him get hired 😆
 
I'd love to have Anthony Lynn as assistant head coach/OC. A strong run game coach is what we're gonna need with no franchise QB on the roster.
 
Saint Greg said:
He’s a failed coach twice? He won a Super Bowl in Green Bay. Three 12 win seasons in the past 4 years in Dallas. 9-5 record with the backup QB. I think we were 0-7 this year. People were drooling over Vrabel’s 54-45 (54.6%) record with the Titans. McCarthy was 49-34 (58.3%) in Dallas. He’s the best coach available.
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Yes, he’s failed twice. He’s been fired and not renewed from two jobs with significantly better rosters than what the Saints are working with right now.

If you are an accountant and get fired after 5 years, you don’t get to be like, “well 4 years ago I had a pretty decent year!”. You were bad enough that they didn’t want you anymore - that is failing the job.

Also, 1 Super Bowl with Rodgers and that cast is not a flex, it’d be humiliating if prime Rodgers (maybe the most talented QB ever) didn’t get you 1, especially when you consider the skill players and defensive talent he inherited in GB. Just like he inherited a great roster from Jason Garrett, who was massively underperforming.

Now you want him to inherit the worst roster he’s ever inherited, after he’s slowly but surely plummeted every team he has coached - but no, he’s going to come to NO and magically overcome all of that.

Be realistic.
 
sportsaint said:
Assuming he is the hire, who do you ask think he would bring in as OC or DC? Who has he worked with in the past that he could bring in? Who would y’all like to see him bring in for these positions? I read somewhere he could bring the DC from Dallas, Mike Zimmer? Thoughts?
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Why not keep Kubiak if he wants to work with him. After the first two games, he's obviously got some great ideas. Two offensive minds are better than one.
 
SonOfNOLA said:
Only skill talent Dallas had was Dak and Lamb under McCarthy. Cooks is way past his prime. Elliott and Pollard looked better than they were because of the OL.

McCarthy doesn’t get enough credit for maximizing mostly average talent into top offenses. The lack of receiving playmakers at RB and WR showed a lot in the playoffs once teams took away Lamb.

Dallas’ talent was largely overrated because of the Jerry Jones media hype. No other coach was getting 12 wins for multiple seasons out of those teams.
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Hard to argue.

DAL o-line was riddled with injuries, but still held it together decently enough to allow for the backs like Dowdle to make plays and for decent WR's (Tolbert) and TE's (Ferguson) to excel. Average to slightly above average players made splashes, even with a backup QB. Have to say that coaching was def a part of this.

I think MM would actually be a plus in NO.
 
SuperSaint said:
For me, it was a done deal that Mccarthy was going to be the guy when Jeff Duncan said the other day on a podcast that Loomis and Mccarthy play golf in Florida during the offseason.

Not my favorite choice, but I think it's already done.
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Agreed. All tea leaves point to this being the case, including the fact that all buzz around McCarthy has ceased.

I think we simply just have to knock out the Rooney Rule compliance item first.

So much happens behind the scenes with these things, like the note you just pointed out. Wouldn’t be surprising to learn someday that McCarthy to the Saints was done weeks ago through back channels.
 
St. Geezy said:
Agreed. All tea leaves point to this being the case, including the fact that all buzz around McCarthy has ceased.

I think we simply just have to knock out the Rooney Rule compliance item first.

So much happens behind the scenes with these things, like the note you just pointed out. Wouldn’t be surprising to learn someday that McCarthy to the Saints was done weeks ago through back channels.
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I'm worried that Mccarthy might not be the guy for a multi-year process of retooling.

It's not going to be a quick fix.
 
SuperSaint said:
I'm worried that Mccarthy might not be the guy for a multi-year process of retooling.

It's not going to be a quick fix.
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I don’t think the rebuild is as dire as it’s being made out to be here, but we shall see.

Health and competent coaching are what’s ailing this team more than anything. There are some roster holes to fix but we aren’t a 5-12 type team when actually healthy.
 
sportsaint said:
Everybody talking about McCarthy being old school and not progressive but if he chooses a progressive OC paired with a future exciting QB, maybe the Saints could be a future contender
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Fixed. I have no idea why weve decided to make Rattler out to be something he was absolutely not.

The guy is a 5th round draft pick. Played like a 5th round draft pick. You dont build franchises or hire coaches around him. If he develops into a journeman #2, id consider that a win for him. He is not franchise QB material.
 

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