It will take time to develop Rattler, Haener or possible first round quarterback. (20 Viewers)

[MarylandWHODAT]

The Saints do not have a franchise QB in the building nor will for a while. This mess has way too many issues that need to be addressed before a QB. The Saints could have Tom Brady in his prime and he wouldn't do anything due to the lack of an offensive line.

The game starts in the trenches and the Saints needs to draft all offensive line this draft. It will not be a sexy draft buy they have to protect whoever is back there. You get that and then maybe, MAYBE Rattler next year will guide them to a 7-10, 8-9 record next year.

This team is far away from drafting nor landing a great QB for a multitude of reasons. Namely, they have no cap space, no coach, not going to win for a long time, they are old, Mickey Loomis was made by Sean Payton and they are in a rebuild. I get that it's the NFL but the Saints have become the "oh hell no" destination for players. Hell, Mahomes didn't want to come here when he was drafted and the Saints were halfway good then! He threatened the Chiefs with the Saints!

No, strap in because the Saints are going to be awful for a long time........

 

[Saint Greg]

2026 will be worse for QBs, especially if Arch doesn’t come out.

Not saying we should take a QB, but it doesn’t get better with the next class coming out. At least not yet, that could of course change.

How the heck do you know what 2026 is going to be like? I know for sure nobody knew Burrow and Daniels were going to be first round picks a year out. Hell mid senior season people on here were talking about getting them in the 3rd round.

No way Arch only plays one year of college.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

It’s really not too early to tell. Both generally played like deer in the headlights that happen to make a great play once in a blue moon.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

I feel like as long as we draft Cam Ward, him along with other good draft picks would be a positive turning point for this team.

Cam Ward never played a good game against a defense with NFL talent in the SEC. This past year he didn’t play any. The prior year when he did, he sucked. Same can be said for Carson Beck and Jaxson Dart who completely floundered against Kentucky due to Deone Walker. Then you have Ewers who completely gives most people Colt McCoy vibes.

Pass on QB this year. Gonna have to role with Carr and Rattler backing him up for 2025.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

I agree. I see 2 career backups who may not even be good enough to be backups in the NFL. Neither is better than the other at this point. We don't have a healthy NFL QB on the roster. Shoulda kept Winston or Dalton.

We are stuck with Carr for another year, IMO. The cap and personnel have been completely mismanaged since Sean left.

Otherwise, clean house on this team and start spending high picks on Oline and Dline. Every overpriced veteran needs to do us a favor and retire. Embrace suckage for 2-3 seasons and start over.

First mistake: hiring DA as the head coach. 2nd mistake: double down on the first mistake and let the wrong head coach spend money on a middle of the road QB who isn't any better than the 2 cheap guys we could have kept for no cost.

It's a dumpster fire at this point.

Exactly right. Carr isn’t out performing Winston or Dalton. That was one of many awful decisions by DA. He really did hurt us in a big way. All it took was 3 offseasons with him at HC to completely void this team of talent and spend loads of money we didn’t have to keep Payton left over talent or bringing in his own guys who weren’t any better than who they replaced.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

How the heck do you know what 2026 is going to be like? I know for sure nobody knew Burrow and Daniels were going to be first round picks a year out. Hell mid senior season people on here were talking about getting them in the 3rd round.

No way Arch only plays one year of college.

Correct. Many good QBs in the NFL like Mahomes, Stroud, Daniels, Allen all were mediocre or good, then boomed their last year in college. Things “clicked” for em. And it translated well to the NFL.

Theres no one in this draft who things have "clicked" for with evidence. Cam Ward is the closest which is why he will likely be the first QB taken, and he played against zero NFL caliber defenses this year.

The anomaly to me is Sanders. I haven't a single clue why ANYONE would rank him higher than a 5th round pick. The guy is complete arse to me. In fact the entire Colorado thing confuses me. It has to be biased hype.

Consider this. Colorado lost 3 games, played against zero teams that were ranked, lost to KU and Kstate for pete's sake, and still somehow got ranked 20th.

No.

They were awful. They were really fun to watch because of Travis Hunter, but they were complete dog poo as a team, and a lot of that was Sanders constantly missing reads, bad throws and amazing plays only ever happening when he threw to Travis Hunter.

If we somehow select Sanders when we pick with anything more then a 3rd round pick, I'm out until Loomis is gone. I'll just continue watching the Bengals, Chiefs, Texans and Washington. Something has to be really wrong with a GM/Coach/Scouts to think Sanders would be worth a 1st if even I can sit here and state its an obvious bust.

 

[saintfan1972]

We give too many contracts to guys that don't need it. Cam Jordan was a contract of past production. Not sure why they reupped Mathieu. Werner hasn't showed me much to have gotten a new contract. We just have to draft better.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

We give too many contracts to guys that don't need it. Cam Jordan was a contract of past production. Not sure why they reupped Mathieu. Werner hasn't showed me much to have gotten a new contract. We just have to draft better.

Cam I can understand because he's a fan favorite and everyone wants him to finish his career as a Saint in the ways of Deuce and Brees. Mathieu spending most of his career in Arizona and Kansas City is much less so, but many LSU fans will be sour pants if we let him walk. Werner is actually pretty good. I think he should be considered to move inside. He's our only consistent tackler anymore and he has the prototypical size for it. The idea is he may be heir to the MLB when Davis retires.

 

[saintfan1972]

Cam I can understand because he's a fan favorite and everyone wants him to finish his career as a Saint in the ways of Deuce and Brees. Mathieu spending most of his career in Arizona and Kansas City is much less so, but many LSU fans will be sour pants if we let him walk. Werner is actually pretty good. I think he should be considered to move inside. He's our only consistent tackler anymore and he has the prototypical size for it. The idea is he may be heir to the MLB when Davis retires.

We will have dead cap money on Jordan until 2028. I just don't believe in signing someone for past production. Hurts your cap even worse. And Im glad we've had Cam his entire career, but that's overspending.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

We will have dead cap money on Jordan until 2028. I just don't believe in signing someone for past production. Hurts your cap even worse. And Im glad we've had Cam his entire career, but that's overspending.

It's less the signing and more then amount is what it sounds like that bothers you and I fully agree. It was easy to see he was going down hill and the contract should've reflected that, and if he wanted to walk then so be it.

 

[Merl]

We will have dead cap money on Jordan until 2028. I just don't believe in signing someone for past production. Hurts your cap even worse. And Im glad we've had Cam his entire career, but that's overspending.

I think they will have Cam and Ramcyk do what happened with Brees. Reduced salary to vet minimum and they retire after June 1. That gives the team off season cap relief of most of the salary and allows most of the dead money from signing bonus to be pushed to 2026 that gives a cap savings of between 20-25 million for 2025.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

I think they will have Cam and Ramcyk do what happened with Brees. Reduced salary to vet minimum and they retire after June 1. That gives the team off season cap relief of most of the salary and allows most of the dead money from signing bonus to be pushed to 2026 that gives a cap savings of between 20-25 million for 2025.

And that cap philosophy will only extend our crappiness another year. We're at a point were if we want to ever be good again, we gotta fix our cap.

At this point, I question our ability to even sign a good coaching candidate because of the cap mismanagement. We've been a sinking ship since the moment DA was named HC, and as of this moment, the only hope we had was that the owner stepped in to fire Dennis Allen. Considering the cap issues, our inability to sign good talent in free agency, its really, really hard to imagine that Ben Johnson would even consider coming here. Or Joe Brady.

In fact, any coach that isn't desperate for a head coaching job will likely pass on us. Maybe even Aaron Glenn. I would if I were him. Whoever comes here, I don't understand how they wouldn't be able to see that they're not being put in a position to succeed.

And a failed gig as a head coach could easily be a career killer and ruin chances of ever being a head coach again.

 

[los226]

This is what happens when you have a GM with the philosophy of signing a FA QB in hopes of him being the next Drew Brees and drafting a QB late in hopes he’s the next Tom Brady.

It’s just as delusional as him hoping that DA becomes the next great HOF coach that started with a poor record.

Mickey is too much of high risk/high reward type of GM. He caught lightning in a bottle with Drew Brees and that cemented this philosophy long ago and he isn’t budging from it.

 

[sammymvpknight]

I think Spencer could be the guy if he wasn’t playing with guys that belong on a practice squad…. But where we are…. We should be drafting a QB high every year until we find the guy. End of discussion.

Rattler has always looked solid in relief. But when teams get to gameplan against him…game over. I’m 100% moving on from the entire QB room is there is a good QB that falls into our lap.

 

[Merl]

And that cap philosophy will only extend our crappiness another year. We're at a point were if we want to ever be good again, we gotta fix our cap.

At this point, I question our ability to even sign a good coaching candidate because of the cap mismanagement. We've been a sinking ship since the moment DA was named HC, and as of this moment, the only hope we had was that the owner stepped in to fire Dennis Allen. Considering the cap issues, our inability to sign good talent in free agency, its really, really hard to imagine that Ben Johnson would even consider coming here. Or Joe Brady.

In fact, any coach that isn't desperate for a head coaching job will likely pass on us. Maybe even Aaron Glenn. I would if I were him. Whoever comes here, I don't understand how they wouldn't be able to see that they're not being put in a position to succeed.

And a failed gig as a head coach could easily be a career killer and ruin chances of ever being a head coach again.

Just get to be cap compliant they will have to do something like this. There is no way to take the entire hits next year .