Jarvis Landry visiting Saints tomorrow (1 Viewer)

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Humperdoo said:
Yep.
Eric Martin was slow. Colston was slow. It’s not the end all be all. Hell the greatest WR of all time was slow as heck…..

And I have a feeling, this time we will land the free agent. Just have a hunch. 😊
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Jerry Rice had football speed.

He certainly wasn't "slow as heck".
 
Saint Kamara said:
Jerry Rice had football speed.

He certainly wasn't "slow as heck".
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Great points.
Rice's 40-time has become the subject of much debate but anyone who ever saw him play knows he had the speed to turn a short gain into a long one, which makes him functional fast in any equation! There is talk he ran a 4.6 but there's also evidence he ran a 4.4. The reason he slid in the draft was not his lack of speed but his reputation for drops...guess he had the last laugh on that one!
Colston might not have been a burner but he was a big strong guy so there's always that thing where you think, yeah he might only have run a 4.6 40 at the combine in a pair of shorts and a t-shirt, but he probably ran a 4.6 40 in pads and a helmet too!
Eric Martin certainly wasn't fast at 4.7 but he had hands like buckets and the arm strength of a Game of Thrones beserker.
 
Older free agents typically sign after the draft in part due to the compensatory pick formula. It is in the free agents interest to go to a team that has not drafted a player at their position. The Landry and Mathieu visits are contingency planning based on who the Saints draft and what other options the players have post draft. It makes no sense for either side to sign before the draft unless the Saints were going to overpay. The fact they are both still on the market implies no team wants to meet the player's salary request thus the advantage is to the team.
 
sainthood said:
Older free agents typically sign after the draft in part due to the compensatory pick formula. It is in the free agents interest to go to a team that has not drafted a player at their position. The Landry and Mathieu visits are contingency planning based on who the Saints draft and what other options the players have post draft. It makes no sense for either side to sign before the draft unless the Saints were going to overpay. The fact they are both still on the market implies no team wants to meet the player's salary request thus the advantage is to the team.
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It's my understand that because Cleveland cut Landry, he would not be part of any compensatory pick formula regardless of if he signs before or after the draft.

As for Mathieu, Underhill said that he is willing to wait until a team meets or comes close to his asking price and the he is even willing to wait until training camp injuries at Safety make a team desperate for a Safety and willing to meet his price. Not sure what the situation is with Landry. Obviously he's not going to want to go to a team that took a slot WR in the first round, but then again, I don't think most teams are likely to do that. First round WRs tend to be outside guys with big play ability.

But, I guess if a team takes a guy like David Bell in the 2nd or 3rd, it could be competition for a guy like Landry.
 
Geldo said:
Colston might not have been a burner but he was a big strong guy so there's always that thing where you think, yeah he might only have run a 4.6 40 at the combine in a pair of shorts and a t-shirt, but he probably ran a 4.6 40 in pads and a helmet too!
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Colston ran a 4.55 which is very fast for his size, much more importantly his cone and shuttle were also off the charts (and way more important than 40 times).....For a WR quickness, fluidity in the hips and change of direction are waaaaayyyyyyy more important than 40 times....the 40 yard dash is the most overrated, overused metric out there......
 
Geldo said:
Great points.
Rice's 40-time has become the subject of much debate but anyone who ever saw him play knows he had the speed to turn a short gain into a long one, which makes him functional fast in any equation! There is talk he ran a 4.6 but there's also evidence he ran a 4.4. The reason he slid in the draft was not his lack of speed but his reputation for drops...guess he had the last laugh on that one!
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Being completely honest here, "drops" were not the reason Rice wasn't the first WR off the board .. it was the school. If Jerry played at Miss St or Ole Miss instead of MSVS, he's the 1st WR taken & not the great Al Toon (he wasn't a fast guy at all).

And I quote the legendary Coach Archie Gunslinger Cooley ... "Jerry was so good, he could catch a BB pellet at midnight".
 
Probably a situation like we had with Sherman last year. We drafted Adebo and Sherman took that as a slight and moved on. We will likely draft a 1st round WR and Landry will have to make his choice.
 

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