Jim Mora didn’t like Rizzi chewing out Matthew Hayball (5 Viewers)

[Saint Spud]

He’s a punter

 

[BBarnes]

Also need to understand that he was the special teams coach until being named interim head coach.

Further, he is a HIGHLY respected special teams coach, so much so that the NFL rules committee consulted him specifically when they redid the kickoff rules for this season.
So, obviously, his special teams playing well is extremely important to him as its "his specialty." That adds to that pressure as well.

But I'm with the camp that says if you're being paid high money to perform and you're an adult, you can take someone yelling at you when you mess up something, especially really badly. I was a performing artist for 25 years and I have a thick skin. I assume I'm expected to be perfect by the conductor and the audience, and will hear about it if I'm not. It's part of being a public performer, and athletes know that. I've seen enough high school and college sports coaches to figure this isn't the first time some coach has screamed at Hayball in his face.

Oh I don't mind the yelling. I love intense and hard coaching. He went a little overboard there and I am pretty sure he would say the same. It isn't all that big of a deal though.

 

[Rouxble]

I didn't like it. Yelling is fine, but he seemed to go overboard with it. When you see a player (Kamara) trying to hold a coach back during a tirade, then it's more than "just football" at that point.

I really can’t recall an NFL head coach in the last few decades having a similar meltdown on the sideline. Harbaugh with the 49ers may have been the closest, but his meltdowns were directed at the officiating best I can remember.

 

[bobad]

I really can’t recall an NFL head coach in the last few decades having a similar meltdown on the sideline. Harbaugh with the 49ers may have been the closest, but his meltdowns were directed at the officiating best I can remember.

I think I've seen Rizzi get red in the face and yell at players before, but could be mistaken.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

xCSP didn't react - he responded. What Rizzi did there was a thoughtless reaction and imo completely overblown.

Did the punter screw up by putting himself into the play, yes....did the play count? No...use it as a teachable moment and not a moment to show your arse

Next coach up

 

[St. Widge]

I know and agree with all of that. I’m saying it was overboard for a guy that was trying too hard to make a play and tackle the guy. Those kind of outbursts should be for lack of hustle or effort, imo.

Yep and if it got to the point where you last line of defense has to make the tackle there were many other guys not doing their job before it got to that point. Hayball deserved some blame and even to get chewed out, but what Rizzi did was far past chewing out. He turned red faced and threw his headset on the ground like a 3 year-old having a temper tantrum. As already noted, that might work early on in a coach's career but after awhile or some loses, guys tune that coach out and it becomes the source of laughing at him, not with him.

 

[TenTwo]

Like the wise Eminem once said:

oh Jim Mora doesn't approve? Well I do... So **** him and **** you too

 

[St. Widge]

That behavior with a punter is weak. Let him try that with Demario or AK when they don't do their job. They all miss assignments.

That may have demonstrated that he is out at the end of the season as if he had a chance anyway.

Yeah, I didn't see him all red faced, throwing down his headset and yelling in AK's face when he dropped a sure TD pass against the Falcons a few weeks ago that could have cost us the game.

 

[efil4stnias]

Didnt the punter give up a TD by not being in the right place? if so, i dont think Rizzi was being a bully. I think he was genuinely pissed off at him.

are Punters known for their tackling prowess? LOL.

I get what Rizzi is talking about. But it seems like his frustrations from the prior 3 Q of what was supposed to be Saints football, and clearly was not, got the better of him. Unfortunately, Hayball was the recipient of the boiling over.

 

[RJS]

I think it's Important to note that Rizzi wasn't just upset at that play. It was the culmination of three consecutive punts that sent him off. I'm guessing he probably had a conversation with him after the first two but Hayball wasn't executing the game plan multiple times in a row and it's not like you can bench him.

 

[SaintsMan209]

I agree with Jim sadly. There is a way to chew a player out that is effective and then there is being belligerent. Sadly Rizzi has shown his true colors. it's probably time to move on. Is Rick Venturi available?

 

[DeuceMcAllisterFan]

Missing a play isn't comparable to abandoning your assignment especially a football 101 responsibility/assignment. That should get chewed out by every coach.

 

[rlemieux]

I said it in the gameday thread and I'll say it here, there is fiery and there's out of control. He wasn't in control. YOU don't do a grown man like that. Wasn't a fan of it then, damn sure ain't a fan of it now.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

There is yelling and chewing out but what Rizzi did was red-face hysteria throwing things. And at the PUNTER. Hayball didn't fumble, He didn't drop a sure TD pass to win a game or miss a tackle that cost us a game. He didn't kick it where it needed to be . C'mon man

Had it not been for that flag being thrown, Hayball playing out of position as he did led to that touchdown.

 

[muddbug2]

Honestly, I wasn't too thrill about that either. There is a fine line with those type of behavior with coaches. In my many years of watching football I have seen a few coaches doing that and it didn't end well with their team. Ditka did it with Harbaugh. Parchell was hard nose but never to that extreme. Mora was brutally honest but never seen him go off on the sideline like that. The only person famous with that kind of outburst was Bobby Knight. Salute to Hayball for taking it. People might praise Rizzi for his more accountability approach but there is a thin line with that. These are men and not college or high school kids on the sideline.

It was a stupid mental mistake.