Kamara HOF'er? (1 Viewer)

[Nolan]

Before last year he was averaging basically 1 TD a game from scrimmage for his career (look up others who have similar #s). Last year really hurt that track. If he reaches 120 touchdowns, he's absolute a lock.

 

[faceman]

If they put the current generation of RBs into the right context, then yes I believe Kamara has a shot. Going on total numbers doesn't tell the whole story, kind of how you can't compare QBs stats from the 70s and 80s with QBs over the last 20 years. It was a totally different approach to the game back then. QBs weren't asked to sling the ball around and defensive players were allowed to be way more physical in pass defense.

This I will agree with 100%. The problem is we still have old voters with influence who are set in their ways.
It was the same with the MLB voters who refused to vote for any player on the 1st ballot. It finally took those
voters dying off before Mariano Rivera became the first player to be enshrined with 100% of the vote on
the first ballot.

 

[sfidc3]

Yes, he is a HOF talent, for sure.....

Will he get into the HOF? No clue, don't really trust the process, especially when they have obvious bias towards players who were on SB winning teams.....

If he continues on his current pace this season he will have well over 10,000 combined rush/receiving yards, if he plays 3 more years near his current level he will have close to 15,000....

Another thing working in his favor is the HOF loves guys that score a lot of TD's.....he is averaging 12 a year, which is HOF level....

 

[SaintRay]

I doubt Karama ever comes close to 120 TD’s.

He probably has 2.5 more years in NOLA (he’s a free agent in 2026), and if he averages 6-7 TD’s a year, including this year, that will get him somewhere around 90 TD’s for his career. He currently has 75 TD’s in Regular Season play, plus 4 more in the Playoffs.

 

[IceHot]

Its hard for RBs to get into the HoF anymore. For a long time the HoF was overloaded with RBs and QBs and not so many players at other positions.

That theoretical 12K threshold also might go up with the change to a 17 game schedule.

Several RBs that arent in for comparison that were near the top of there tier when they retired...

• Fred Taylor
• Steven Jackson
• Ricky Watters
• Eddie George
• Ottis Anderson
• Shaun Alexander
• Roger Craig

 

[IceHot]

Will he get into the HOF? No clue, don't really trust the process, especially when they have obvious bias towards players who were on SB winning teams.....

Why do you say that?

Its fairly true with QBs but most other modern positions by my count seems in line with my expectations...

RB	33	21	63.64%
DB	41	26	63.41%
WR	32	20	62.50%
LB	34	21	61.76%
DL	41	23	56.10%
OL	51	28	54.90%
TE	11	6	54.55%

 

[dtc]

Taylor, Gore, Jackson, and Dillon all weren’t much of receiving backs. That’s where I think Kamara will be viewed differently.

Kamara has more career receiving yards than those RBs right now, or just a few dozen yards under some of their totals, and still has about 3 more prime years left. He’s impacting the game in receiving more than they ever did in their primes.

I think if Kamara passes Marshall Faulk’s #1 all time RB receiving yard total (6875) by a few hundred, finishes with 10k rushing, and 120 total TDs, he’ll get in within 10 years after retiring. That would put him within the top 10 all time yards from scrimmage.

Gore and Fitzgerald are the only top 10 YFS leaders not in the HOF but they’ll be there soon. The RBs in the top 10 YFS received over 3000 carries to get most of their YFS, while AK’s getting his YFS from a closer split of carries and receptions.

Kamarra is barely half way to those numbers now. It's not going to happen unless he has 3 or 4 crazy productive years with no injuries. Receiving he needs 3000 from here.

 

[sfidc3]

I doubt Karama ever comes close to 120 TD’s.

He probably has 2.5 more years in NOLA (he’s a free agent in 2026), and if he averages 6-7 TD’s a year, including this year, that will get him somewhere around 90 TD’s for his career. He currently has 75 TD’s in Regular Season play, plus 4 more in the Playoffs.

6 or 7 would be about half of what he averages a year combined rushing and receiving so I think your projections are a bit low....I think he will easily reach 100 and depending on his health could get to 120.....

Why do you say that?

Its fairly true with QBs but most other modern positions by my count seems in line with my expectations...

RB	33	21	63.64%
DB	41	26	63.41%
WR	32	20	62.50%
LB	34	21	61.76%
DL	41	23	56.10%
OL	51	28	54.90%
TE	11	6	54.55%

I'm not going to research it now but I would be willing to bet there are some names on the numbers in the middle row that don't deserve to be in.....

 

[pierce2poydras]

Not sure on HoF trajectory (I think the O struggle the last 3 years probably don't help) but he's a freak and if he can string together 5 more years of really good play then I guess it's possible. He tends to get outshined by McCaffrey though as the feature do-it-all back in terms of league exposure, and I wonder how much that would hurt AK's chances when it's all said and done. (not saying McCaffrey is better- I think AK is more special and is just a victim of market and not necessarily being the focal point of the offense like CMC seems to be)

On a separate note, the fact that AK wears Adidas Freak cleats and they haven't given him a special design that's like "FRE41<" is a major marketing fail imo

 

[faceman]

Its hard for RBs to get into the HoF anymore. For a long time the HoF was overloaded with RBs and QBs and not so many players at other positions.

That theoretical 12K threshold also might go up with the change to a 17 game schedule.

Several RBs that arent in for comparison that were near the top of there tier when they retired...

• Fred Taylor
• Steven Jackson
• Ricky Watters
• Eddie George
• Ottis Anderson
• Shaun Alexander
• Roger Craig

The 12K line is known as the Jim Brown line who amassed 12,312 in his career. It's considered an historical
mark and anyone who surpassed it has accomplished something special.

I do agree the added games have made this mark easier to obtain. Brown put up his numbers in only
nine seasons and 118 career games. When he retired after the 65 season he was almost 3000 yds ahead
of Joe Perry who was in 2nd place. Perry played 16 seasons and 183 career games. Yeah, Brown was
a special player and still is.

 

[IceHot]

The 12K line is known as the Jim Brown line who amassed 12,312 in his career. It's considered an historical
mark and anyone who surpassed it has accomplished something special.

I do agree the added games have made this mark easier to obtain. Brown put up his numbers in only
nine seasons and 118 career games. When he retired after the 65 season he was almost 3000 yds ahead
of Joe Perry who was in 2nd place. Perry played 16 seasons and 183 career games. Yeah, Brown was
a special player and still is.

I dont doubt you but if the cutoff line is a line Jim Brown created that is a sick measuring stick.

That being said Joe Kelly did follow Jim Brown in more ways then one without hitting that mark and I do love me some Joe the Jet Perry.

 

[faceman]

I dont doubt you but if the cutoff line is a line Jim Brown created that is a sick measuring stick.

That being said Joe Kelly did follow Jim Brown in more ways then one without hitting that mark and I do love me some Joe the Jet Perry.

Many have surpassed the total. None of them did it in less than 118 games though. The latter is the
sick measuring stick and probably never will be surpassed. Brown averaged 104.3 yds per game
for his entire career. Imo, he's still the best ever and there really isn't a close second.

 

[IceHot]

I'm not going to research it now but I would be willing to bet there are some names on the numbers in the middle row that don't deserve to be in.....

Everybody (including me) feels that way about some selections, but overall as one who has done the research given the stiff criteria to get in (a max number of selections per year regardless of position) I think they do an overall excellent job.

Personally, I can name a lot more players that I would like to see in than names I think dont belong.

And as far as "prime's" comments I think they are cowardly and uneducated. First of all dont call someone out and be too cowardly to site examples. And if there was an upper room with just 22 players he wouldnt be in it.