Kellen Moore expected to be Saints coach [Feb 10 — Fletcher Mackel: mostly done deal; intro press conference to be later this week] (61 Viewers)

[webster]

Nothing official. I have to imagine he wants some time to soak all this in. Hopefully we hear something before the end of the week.

It will be a long week if you’re correct.

 

[TalleyHo1]

I heard on the radio that he'll no longer be an Eagle as soon as their victory parade in Philadelphia is over with, whenever that is!

As of now, from what I heard on NFL Radio driving home from work is, due to the chance of inclement weather, to include snow, that the parade will be Friday.

 

[Elvis]

Nothing official. I have to imagine he wants some time to soak all this in. Hopefully we hear something before the end of the week.

The end of the week? I get having to wait for the Super Bowl to conclude, but a freaking parade? Come on now.

 

[soggymoss84]

Question? How much control does Coach Moore receive? As of now, Loomis, Ireland and company have taken over the reigns since Peyton left. Are they willing to unlock the lock and give the man the combination to crack open the safe? Or do they keep it portion of the combination and only give the remaining numbers based upon results? Thoughts? Full or Partial control?

Loomis will give Kellen the same reign he gave Sean and Dennis. He will allow Kellen to put a list of players together he wants and Loomis will do what he can to try to make the money work, or he will tell him it can’t happen.

 

[soggymoss84]

Fletcher says he’s hearing it’s mostly done and logistics are being worked out for an introductory press conference later this week

 

[No2DC]

Statistically speakingy here’ the #’s.

7 new coaches hired in 2021 only 2 remain, Sirianni and Campbell. In 2020 it was 5, only Stefanski remains. In 2022 it was 10 and only 4 remain. Statistically speaking only 2 will be still employed in 3 years.



From 2020-2022, (22) coaches were hired. Only 7 coaches remain. Thats a 32% chance of hitting , 68% chance you get it wrong.



2025, 7 new head coaches, likely two will remain, possibly 3. Vrabel and Carrol are rehashes, gotta consider them favorites to still be employed based on history so that means only one of the new guys is likely to stick.

And, sometimes best situation means nothing.

Staley was voted as HC w/ best situation when he was hired by Chargers. It didn’t do diddly squat for him.

That means Ben Johnson isn’t a lock just because he picked best situation or is Moore in a worst situation for coming here.

I think we need to look at some of the rosters of successful coaches. Quickly, Siriani inherited a Super Bowl roster with a quarterback in place. Campbell inherited a talented roster as well and a solid quarterback in Stafford. Stevanski seems to be the overachiever without a QB, but they have talent from being a losing team for so long. Stanley is probably an obviously bad coach, but several guys have tried and failed to get the Chargers turned around. The numbers clearly show most coaches fail, but you can't discount the team's talent in the probability of success. You still need a gifted coach, but it's an uphill battle without talent and a QB. We must remember we hit it out of the park with Drew, Reggie, PT, and others. Allen was just a bad coach.

 

[SweetT]

From what I gather, Moore is making 2.5 Mil with the Eagles. If he's getting triple the salary like Schefter is suggesting, then he would be making somewhere around 7.5mil a year here.

No way he's passing up on that kind of money.

I will accept that kind of money for him. If he backtracks, then I’m on deck

 

[Jd101]

It's hard to judge Moore because of the insane level of talent he has at his disposal.

The best offensive line in the league.

The best running back in the league.

A true #1 receiver in AJ Brown.

A true #2 maybe #1 on some teams in Smith.

A very good TE as well.

Pro bowl caliber QB in Hurts.

That's seriously game breaking amount of talent and he most likely will never have that level of talent ever again.

When you have the best OL in the league it makes the rest of the offense so much better.
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[Ti Rider]

He’s going to be making $3 million more a year than the guy begging him to stay in Philly. If I’m Sirianni I’d be insulted.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

I think we need to look at some of the rosters of successful coaches. Quickly, Siriani inherited a Super Bowl roster with a quarterback in place. Campbell inherited a talented roster as well and a solid quarterback in Stafford. Stevanski seems to be the overachiever without a QB, but they have talent from being a losing team for so long. Stanley is probably an obviously bad coach, but several guys have tried and failed to get the Chargers turned around. The numbers clearly show most coaches fail, but you can't discount the team's talent in the probability of success. You still need a gifted coach, but it's an uphill battle without talent and a QB. We must remember we hit it out of the park with Drew, Reggie, PT, and others. Allen was just a bad coach.

For that exercise I’m going to edit my original post to show the coaches that remain from 2022

Oddly enough Bowles is the only defensive minded guy to stick and he may be benefiting from the division weakness more than anything. Campbell is 1 of only 3 coaches (Harbaugh’s) that doesn’t have an offensive or defensive background

So we are barking up the right tree w/ Moore.

 

[Excelsior88]

They also need to get off my lawn.

Nah, that's what we've got "Lawn Guy Dave" for.

 

[No2DC]

For that exercise I’m going to edit my original post to show the coaches that remain from 2022

You made the biggest point: the high failure rate. Talent does matter unless you're just a bad coach. I think hiring Moore is the easy part; finding him an elite quarterback and rebuilding the roster is going to be the hard part.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

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You made the biggest point: the high failure rate. Talent does matter unless you're just a bad coach. I think hiring Moore is the easy part; finding him an elite quarterback and rebuilding the roster is going to be the hard part.

I still don’t think the roster is in bad shape from a pure talent standpoint. It’s just that Injuries hit nearly all those “talents” and exposed the lack of a middle class.

It further exposed that Carr isn’t a glue type of player that can hold the bridge together when it collapses.

Think about how terrible the 2014 roster was and on the strength of Drew’s arm we still managed 7 wins. Any other QB/Coach barely scrapes 3-4 wins w/ that depleted group.

 

[State Of Affairs]

What exactly do you think NFL GMs do if they aren't responsible for drafts, free agents, or roster construction?

Not resigning Hendrickson after he lead our team in pressures, sacks (almost double Cam), TFLs, QB hits, and pass rush win rate falls on the GM. Of course blame goes on the HC but that's literally the GMs job.

This is revisionist history…. The dude was hurt for 3 season, had one break out season and we just drafted a guy that we gave up 2 1st for…. It was a pretty logical decision that didn’t work out.

Next, the same people will use the same logic to complain about Baun…. They won’t remember that we had DD ahead of him and aren’t guna run him out of town.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

This is revisionist history…. The dude was hurt for 3 season, had one break out season and we just drafted a guy that we gave up 2 1st for…. It was a pretty logical decision that didn’t work out.

Next, the same people will use the same logic to complain about Baun…. They won’t remember that we had DD ahead of him and aren’t guna run him out of town.

Baun admitted/confirmed everything you just said in his interview w/ Underhill and subsequent write up and people still come on here and force their narrative as a truth