Latoya says no festivals in New Orleans for 2020! (1 Viewer)

[dtc]

Id rather keep the negative drama porn to the existing covid thread. The mayor shouldnt be shooting from the hip on this.

Warning of what might be coming isn't shooting from the hip. It's being honest and making sure that people are prepared for what may or may not happen.

Waiting until the last minute would be far worse than what she's doing.

Be prepared!

 

[dtc]

We started with only a few cases.

Now we have over 600k.

The reason the projections went down is because everyone is staying home. If we stop staying home with even thousands of active cases, we will soon be back to having projections of millions of deaths.

There won’t be any festivals, concerts, or sporting events in 2020. We need to accept that reality..

This times a million!

We are finally seeing stabilization, but we have orders more infected people out there who don't know they're infected than we had in February.

Loosening them on the general population and returning to normal would see an exponentially larger increase in spread as compared to the original outbreak.

This is not politics. It's math.

 

[dtc]

I didn't say that. But maybe. If the initial hit of the thing has moved through enough population that the negative outcome of a rebound is similar to the average flu season, then I'd say move on along.

But one thing I'm not ready to do is to tell a huge percentage of the population of New Orleans that their entire livelihood is done for the rest of the year.

Well, that's why you're not the mayor.

I'll say it.

A huge percentage of people in NOLA need to be prepared for the likely possibility that their livelihoods are screwed for the next however long it takes to get an effective treatment and vaccine. Be that a month or a year or three, if you're depending on tourists, business is going to suck.

 

[Brennan77]

Warning of what might be coming isn't shooting from the hip. It's being honest and making sure that people are prepared for what may or may not happen.

Waiting until the last minute would be far worse than what she's doing.

Be prepared!

Saints "preparing to play" this year, declare it "too important for our city"

New Orleans mayor LaToya Cantrell said yesterday that large music festivals in her city should be put on hold until 2021, and when asked about how that pertains to professional football, she replied: "I don't think anyone has a clue right now."

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This is how you talk about it. The Saints know as well as anyone that things are up on the air. The mayor has been horrible in her tone and demeanor since day one and it's only gotten worse as she overreacts and blames others when criticized. Simply put, it's premature and unnecessary to float this without a vision for getting people back to work.

It's not the content, it's the delivery.

And yes, I work in the service industry so I'm well aware that this year already bites and may mean I have lost a career that I've invested in for the last 16 years.

 

[StudioSaint]

Saints "preparing to play" this year, declare it "too important for our city"

New Orleans mayor LaToya Cantrell said yesterday that large music festivals in her city should be put on hold until 2021, and when asked about how that pertains to professional football, she replied: "I don't think anyone has a clue right now."

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

This is how you talk about it. The Saints know as well as anyone that things are up on the air. The mayor has been horrible in her tone and demeanor since day one and it's only gotten worse as she overreacts and blames others when criticized. Simply put, it's premature and unnecessary to float this without a vision for getting people back to work.

It's not the content, it's the delivery.

And yes, I work in the service industry so I'm well aware that this year already bites and may mean I have lost a career that I've invested in for the last 16 years.

In my opinion, over promising and under delivering is worse than under promising and over delivering. Better to prepare people for the worst and have things work out better, than to pump up people's expectactions for the best and have things turn out for the worse.

Also, the Saints are a little bit biased don't your think? Do you expect them to say, "hey what earns us millions of dollars isn't really essential?" Right now, everyone thinks what they do is essential, but that's not really the case. I say that knowing full well that the livelihood and dream that I have been sacrificing for and building over the past 24 years is dead. In a years time when I no longer have protection against eviction for past due rent, I will either have to live in the streets or abandon my home and life of the past 24 years.

I wouldn't want a single person to die that doesn't have to just so I can hold onto what I'm losing. The living can rebuild their lives. The dead can not.

 

[dtc]

Saints "preparing to play" this year, declare it "too important for our city"

New Orleans mayor LaToya Cantrell said yesterday that large music festivals in her city should be put on hold until 2021, and when asked about how that pertains to professional football, she replied: "I don't think anyone has a clue right now."

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

This is how you talk about it. The Saints know as well as anyone that things are up on the air. The mayor has been horrible in her tone and demeanor since day one and it's only gotten worse as she overreacts and blames others when criticized. Simply put, it's premature and unnecessary to float this without a vision for getting people back to work.

It's not the content, it's the delivery.

And yes, I work in the service industry so I'm well aware that this year already bites and may mean I have lost a career that I've invested in for the last 16 years.

Well, I'm sorry you're suffering. Believe me, I know what you mean having had $2mil in projects "put on hold" over the past 3 weeks. That said, I think you're letting your personal issues cloud your judgment and I say that having appreciated the depth of your thoughts expressed on this board for years. Of course, I could be wrong, but I don't care about tone or demeanor unless it's the asinine nonsense coming out of the current White House which does nothing except create hostility, confusion and fear.

The Saints are nothing like the city. They are not a governmental organization whose responsibility is to safeguard and maintain a city. Their job is to put butts in seats and make a dollar. Yes, that team means more to us than to any other city, but the Saints are doing what they need to do while the Mayor is trying to do the same.

You will very likely never find me appreciating sugar-coated BS so perhaps that's where the difference lies. Some people want or need to be encouraged. Me, I am self motivated.

 

[Brennan77]

In my opinion, over promising and under delivering is worse than under promising and over delivering. Better to prepare people for the worst and have things work out better, than to pump up people's expectactions for the best and have things turn out for the worse.

Also, the Saints are a little bit biased don't your think? Do you expect them to say, "hey what earns us millions of dollars isn't really essential?" Right now, everyone thinks what they do is essential, but that's not really the case. I say that knowing full well that the livelihood and dream that I have been sacrificing for and building over the past 24 years is dead. In a years time when I no longer have protection against eviction for past due rent, I will either have to live in the streets or abandon my home and life of the past 24 years.

I wouldn't want a single person to die that doesn't have to just so I can hold onto what I'm losing. The living can rebuild their lives. The dead can not.

Of course the Saints are biased. Of course I am biased as well. That's ok.

But hyperbolic virtue signaling such as in your last line does not make for useful situational ethics. Of course no one of us would 'pull the trigger' to intentionally kill another for the sake of furthering our own well being. But that doesn't mean we shut down entire economies and livelihoods beyond reasonable measure to avoid illnesses born of infectious disease. Otherwise we wouldn't tolerate 80000 people dying of the flu last year. Or to apply the principle to another example, we wouldn't drive anywhere because we know there will be fatalities on the roads.

The purpose of the shut down was to 'flatten the curve', not to prevent anyone at all from dying. The idea was to not overwhelm our medical systems. So far, they've largely held up pretty well. Of course we will want to avoid a setback that would be of a scale that would again threaten our capacity to respond. And maybe that means we aren't having jazzfest in the fall. Heck, I'll grant you that it probably means that. But I'd rather a mayor deliver that sort of information in a way that is hopeful and provides leadership rather than as one who appears to be engaging in untimely and severe pronouncements for fear of not being seen as strong enough to 'do something'. The hindsight proclamations of her being the one to cancel Mardi Gras were ridiculous. Own it. We didn't have the info so we didn't make the call. We also don't have the information to make a call for 6 months from now either.

 

[StudioSaint]

But hyperbolic virtue signaling such as in your last line...

I haven't disrespected or dismissed you by questioning your motives or the sincerity of anything that you said. I never said you were wrong or tried to make you wrong. I made it very clear I was only stating my opinion and offering my perspective.

If your opinion and perspective is different from mine, that's fine. You don't have to exaggerate and negatively label my opinion to make you right and me wrong.

None of us here are the final arbitrator on this issue, so no one needs to talk to others as if they are the final authority on the issue. No one should be questioning or hurling accusations about the intentions and sincerity of others. Frankly, I don't engage in that crap and I've had enough of it being hurled my way.

Don't cast stones that could easily be cast right back at you. If you want to join in a discussion, then do so without personal insults and attacks.