Meet the OC candidates (1 Viewer)

[DSnfla]

Ok so these are the 3 guys formally requested interviews with. They may be considering Curry but there is no official word just like there's no official word concerning Gruden.
Maybe this will shed some light on each one.
Shane Waldron





Zac Robinson



Dan Pitcher



Because Waldron is already an OC it's much easier to really get an idea of what he can do. We can see how he works and have a much better idea of what we'd get if he's hired.
While i like Robinson my biggest question is last yr the Rams had an opening for an OC, why did McVay not just promote him and not go outside the organization and hire Mike LaFleur?
If Zac was ready why not just go with him?
It's hard to get a feel for Dan Pitcher he's been Burrow's QB coach since he got there, I mean Burrow was probably the most NFL ready QB since Peyton Manning so don't know how much work he had to do. Browning did a pretty good job when JB went down so maybe that a feather in his cap

I didn't list any other potential or favorite guys that I'd like to see be in the mix because that would be moot if the Saints don't ask for interviews,
So out of these 3 who's your choice ?

 

[NewOrleansBoy]

Waldron all the way

 

[StudioSaint]

Waldron all the way

I really would like to see what Waldron would do out of his QB in the pistol-1RB behind QB-2TE's to the same side of the QB-2WR formation that he runs. With the players the Saints had this past season.

I think he could have a lot of productive fun this past season with Carr, Kamara, Hill, Johnson, Olave, and Shaheed out of that formation. With Kamara's receiving skills and Hill's versatility, Waldron would have the unique advantage of having potentially 2 QB's, 2RB's, 1RB 1FB, 2 TE's or up to 5 Receivers on any play with those 6 players. He could line up any of the 5 anywhere in the formation except QB and he can line up Hill at QB.

He might even be able to create creases for Carr to occasionaly keep the ball for a 3 to 4 yard run without taking a hit.

Throw in motion and I think he could run an entire drive, maybe even an entire game, with that base player grouping and base formation without having to run the same play twice. That would make it hard for the defense to predict what play is coming. It also would make it a lot easier for the offense to go up tempo and hurry up.

 

[EGLSShin]

A real what the hell would be having a formation with AK, Taysom and Shaheed in the backfield during short yardage. 3 screen options, pitch, up the gut, end around, you'd have to prepare for so much at once and pete never really experimented with that.

 

[killerdescore]

Have these interviews been blocked by their team or what ?
I haven't seen any news about that

 

[BelowZero]

Have these interviews been blocked by their team or what ?
I haven't seen any news about that

I'd guess they might be waiting for a specific candidate that's still in the playoff hunt before deciding on someone. Think most teams are doing the same.

 

[NUSaintsfan]

Have these interviews been blocked by their team or what ?
I haven't seen any news about that

Waldron doesn't have a HC. Who knows who the Seattle HC will want as his OC?

Robinson and Pitcher would be a promotion so I highly doubt their teams would be that malicious and not allow them to seek a promotion. NO ONE wins in that regard, though technically they could be blocked as they are under contract.

They can also self eliminate saying they're happy where they are which are indicators of other issues...more in the direction of the Saints.

 

[Rouxble]

Waldron doesn't have a HC. Who knows who the Seattle HC will want as his OC?

Robinson and Pitcher would be a promotion so I highly doubt their teams would be that malicious and not allow them to seek a promotion. NO ONE wins in that regard, though technically they could be blocked as they are under contract.

They can also self eliminate saying they're happy where they are which are indicators of other issues...more in the direction of the Saints.

A few years ago they changed the rules where you can’t block an assistant from interviewing for coordinator positions.

To answer the OP’s post, I’m leaning Robinson right now. I watched some film this morning of Waldron’s offense that wasn’t a YouTube highlight reel, and it wasn’t as impressive as some of the things I’ve seen from McVay’s offense. It looked like they were struggling as much as we did at times. Then I looked up their offensive DVOA splits and they were 22nd on third down and 30th in the red zone. No thanks.

I also find it interesting that Waldron doesn’t seem to be drawing any head coaching interest after three years in an OC role where he was being pumped up as the next great coach. In a league that’s hungry for up and coming offensive minds, that’s concerning.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Have these interviews been blocked by their team or what ?
I haven't seen any news about that

 

[St. Widge]

 

[meily]

Why is there a narrative that people will not come here to coach?

Good defensive coach has the defense rolling and if you are a confident offensive coordinator this is one of the better jobs to have considering the offensive talent here.

If you want to make a name for your self or reestablish your name as an offensive mind this is one of the better jobs in the league to have because the offense has weapons and you can make it what it needs to be because the HC is a defensive coach and he is holding that side of the team down.

 

[St. Widge]

Why is there a narrative that people come here to coach?

Good defensive coach has the defense rolling and if you are a confident offensive coordinator this is one of the better jobs to have considering the offensive talent here.

If you want to make a name for your self or reestablish your name as an offensive mind this is one of the better jobs in the league to have because the offense has weapons and you can make it what it needs to be because the HC is a defensive coach and he is holding that side of the team down.

Underhill and Triplett mentioned the other day that the Saints' OC job is more attractive than some think because with the large number of former OCs that are HCs now New Orleans is one of the few places you can go and take total control over the offensive side of the ball. If a young offensive coach has the goal of being a future HC, being an OC for a defensive HC is a good position to be in. Otherwise you end up like Eric Bieniemy where people think all the credit goes to the HC, Andy Reid, instead of the OC. It's why Bieniemy had to move on or would likely never get a HC job.

Of course, this doesn't mean they will get a current OC since the good current OCs are looking for HC jobs, but it does mean that the Saints OC job is attractive to young up and coming position coaches looking to move up to an OC job and position themselves for a HC job down the line.

 

[TenTwo]

I kinda like Pitcher the best. I like that he has a very robust history which indicates he will succeed in various levels.

 

[El Caliente]

Does the Rooney Rule apply past head coaching hires?

 

[DSnfla]

I really would like to see what Waldron would do out of his QB in the pistol-1RB behind QB-2TE's to the same side of the QB-2WR formation that he runs. With the players the Saints had this past season.

I think he could have a lot of productive fun this past season with Carr, Kamara, Hill, Johnson, Olave, and Shaheed out of that formation. With Kamara's receiving skills and Hill's versatility, Waldron would have the unique advantage of having potentially 2 QB's, 2RB's, 1RB 1FB, 2 TE's or up to 5 Receivers on any play with those 6 players. He could line up any of the 5 anywhere in the formation except QB and he can line up Hill at QB.

He might even be able to create creases for Carr to occasionaly keep the ball for a 3 to 4 yard run without taking a hit.

Throw in motion and I think he could run an entire drive, maybe even an entire game, with that base player grouping and base formation without having to run the same play twice. That would make it hard for the defense to predict what play is coming. It also would make it a lot easier for the offense to go up tempo and hurry up.

I think Waldron would be salivating at the possibilities of using TH in way more formations and options