Mike Garafolo: Saints are set to make a decision on Derek Carr within the next few weeks; likely to have multiple suitors if released (58 Viewers)

[Mojomajik9]

I know I’m out on a limb here but I kinda feel Carr will be traded.

He didn’t want to do the Raiders any favors so he didn’t waive his no trade clause with them. But something tells me he wants out of here as much as many in the fan base want him gone. He doesn’t have a ton of years left and I would think he’d rather try to be on a competitive team rather than a rebuilding one. He's also just not liked by the fans. Rightly or wrongly it’s just not a good situation here and an amicable divorce seems good for both parties.

If the right team did approach the Saints about a trade I can see Carr being willing to waive his no trade clause to go get a fresh start and maybe have a chance at a playoff run.

 

[Rouxble]

I know I’m out on a limb here but I kinda feel Carr will be traded.

He didn’t want to do the Raiders any favors so he didn’t waive his no trade clause with them. But something tells me he wants out of here as much as many in the fan base want him gone. He doesn’t have a ton of years left and I would think he’d rather try to be on a competitive team rather than a rebuilding one. He's also just not liked by the fans. Rightly or wrongly it’s just not a good situation here and an amicable divorce seems good for both parties.

If the right team did approach the Saints about a trade I can see Carr being willing to waive his no trade clause to go get a fresh start and maybe have a chance at a playoff run.

In that scenario, it would be ideal if he let us convert his salary to an option bonus if he wants to be traded. The acquiring team would pay it, and we could get cap relief prior to the start of the league year.

 

[DSnfla]

No. It's because your questions were so asinine, I don't even remember them at this point. I think it was something like " what position on the offensive line did Derek Carr play, while simultaneously throwing perfect passes to his receivers in which they drop and make Carr look bad? Or something silly like that. Or was it what color shoes was Derek Carr wearing while playing fullback and runningback? Or no it was what position in the secondary did Derek Carr play or blah blah blah. So he played Right Guard, Defensive end, Linebacker, and Punter in whatever game you were asking about. I understand that you think Derek Carr is amazing, and it's always everyone else that was to blame for his poor record, and lack of playoff success.

What prompted my questions was your asinine assumption that Carr or ANY QB is solely responsible for the W/L record of a football team
So you LOL post maybe the most obtuse post I have ever seen on this forum or even when it was the Iron Era.
So since you have no memory I'll refresh it.

What position does the QB play on defense? Because the defense plays about 45-50% of the snaps in a football game , so how can the QB that does not play defense be responsible for that part of the game?



Since the avg NFL offense is roughly a 60/40 split pass to run the QB is handing the ball off to the RB 40% of the time. How is The QB responsible for the running plays when all he did was hand it off?

I look forward to more of your obtuse word salad incoherent posts
Thank you for playing

 

[DSnfla]

Carr's contract isn't one of the worst in the NFL...
Watson, Cousins, Rogers, & Prescott are the worst...
It isn't friendly to us & he is overpaid by $10 million a year.
It would be nice if he would rework it so that he is in the $40 million a year range.

I'm pretty sure Carr's salary is high because we restructured him last yr. Had his salary not been low in the 1st yr and restructured last yr he would be making far less. and would be actually underpaid

 

[DSnfla]

I know I’m out on a limb here but I kinda feel Carr will be traded.

He didn’t want to do the Raiders any favors so he didn’t waive his no trade clause with them. But something tells me he wants out of here as much as many in the fan base want him gone. He doesn’t have a ton of years left and I would think he’d rather try to be on a competitive team rather than a rebuilding one. He's also just not liked by the fans. Rightly or wrongly it’s just not a good situation here and an amicable divorce seems good for both parties.

If the right team did approach the Saints about a trade I can see Carr being willing to waive his no trade clause to go get a fresh start and maybe have a chance at a playoff run.

From what I understand he has a 10mil guarantee roster bonus that we can recoup some of that if he's traded before the league yr starts on 3/13. Also I think that we would still be on the hook for what has been restructured so far. But I could be wrong

 

[DSnfla]

I think you’re missing the point. We need more depth at WR that doesn’t involve UDFAs or vet min players.

Yup , that's why I think going into the draft if not the top need the 2nd most need is a big body contested catch guy, either a X WR or TE

 

[texasjefe]

asinine assumption that Carr or ANY QB is solely responsible for the W/L record of a football team

What's asinine is you being obtuse and saying things like, the QB does not have a ***substantially larger responsibility*** for wins and losses; or, what position on defense does Derek play? With Derek at QB, our team is not going to score enough points to win half their games, and we're not going to the playoffs. Period. Raider fans realized that years ago when our kids were younger.

But you're onto something. Because Carr is a mediocre and completely irrelevant QB in the league, maybe he should switch positions and play safety in a flag football beach league.

If there's a team stupid enough to trade for Carr, that will be hilarious. I can't wait.

 

[DSnfla]

What's asinine is you being obtuse and saying things like, the QB does not have a ***substantially larger responsibility*** for wins and losses; or, what position on defense does Derek play? With Derek at QB, our team is not going to score enough points to win half their games, and we're not going to the playoffs. Period. Raider fans realized that years ago when our kids were younger.

But you're onto something. Because Carr is a mediocre and completely irrelevant QB in the league, maybe he should switch positions and play safety in a flag football beach league.

If there's a team stupid enough to trade for Carr, that will be hilarious. I can't wait.

Even more asinine is thinking that fans are the best assessment of a team. SMH ' You ever hear the age old statement that " A QB gets way more credit than then he deserves in a win and way more blame when it's a loss" . You know why it's an age old statement? BECAUSE IT TRUE.
If you are ridiculously delusional enough to believe that it just the QB that is responsible for winning and losing a game, then there is just no hope for you. And I'm not surprised

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

I think you’re missing the point. We need more depth at WR that doesn’t involve UDFAs or vet min players.

TE too.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

What prompted my questions was your asinine assumption that Carr or ANY QB is solely responsible for the W/L record of a football team
So you LOL post maybe the most obtuse post I have ever seen on this forum or even when it was the Iron Era.
So since you have no memory I'll refresh it.

What position does the QB play on defense? Because the defense plays about 45-50% of the snaps in a football game , so how can the QB that does not play defense be responsible for that part of the game?



Since the avg NFL offense is roughly a 60/40 split pass to run the QB is handing the ball off to the RB 40% of the time. How is The QB responsible for the running plays when all he did was hand it off?

I look forward to more of your obtuse word salad incoherent posts
Thank you for playing

Dude. Quit making excuses. Carr is who he is. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

Even more asinine is thinking that fans are the best assessment of a team. SMH ' You ever hear the age old statement that " A QB gets way more credit than then he deserves in a win and way more blame when it's a loss" . You know why it's an age old statement? BECAUSE IT TRUE.
If you are ridiculously delusional enough to believe that it just the QB that is responsible for winning and losing a game, then there is just no hope for you. And I'm not surprised

Yeah the Qb has nothing to do with it. Great point bro.

 

[DSnfla]

Dude. Quit making excuses. Carr is who he is. You're embarrassing yourself.

LOL what's embarrassing is your lack of any intelligent football conversation. You don't discuss the topic, you don't bring and facts or knowledge to the conversation. Your post amount to saying " I know you are but what am I? " I will happily do what I have done to only a select few and put you on ignore, not because you're combative but because you just don't bring intelligent discourse to the table

 

[JackDiesel]

 

[Hank]

I think realistically we need to restructure about 10 million to get under the cap to begin the league year. Thus would result in an immediate 8 million dollar 2025 cap savings from prorating the bonus over 5 years. We would have to pay a total cash payout this year to him of at least 20 million dollars instead of only 10 with no restructure.
If we then designated him a July cut, we would get an additional 20 million dollar cap savings in July. If he signed with some other team, we would get an offset of up to 20 million dollars available in our 2026 cap based on what the new team paid him.
Of course the ten million dollars would be adjusted to the minimum required to be cap compliant at the beginning of the new league year.

Good analysis--IF IF we were to cut bait on Carr, which i am not in favor of-do the June 1 designation and bite the bullet. Sign Cooper Rush as the bridge veteran and roll with Ratman and/or draft another option in a weak Qb draft and hope you catch lightning in bottle---at the same time thin out the old bad contract Jordan, TH, & Honeybadger

 

[lilvipa221]

Even more asinine is thinking that fans are the best assessment of a team. SMH ' You ever hear the age old statement that " A QB gets way more credit than then he deserves in a win and way more blame when it's a loss" . You know why it's an age old statement? BECAUSE IT TRUE.
If you are ridiculously delusional enough to believe that it just the QB that is responsible for winning and losing a game, then there is just no hope for you. And I'm not surprised

This is true that quarterbacks get too much blame in a loss but it is also true that these average quarterbacks that can't will their team to victory get paid too much.

Even though Carr "only" got 35 million a year he is still the highest paid player on the team by far and isn't the best player. That should not be the case. We also had to go into debt to sign him so we can't stack the team around to make him into the player some people think he is. We are stuck in neutral going no where with him as QB because we have limitations against the cap and a front office that has no idea what they are doing or how to rebuild, which leads to all these Derek Carr excuses continuing over the course of his 12 year career as if he is the goat that never was and none of it is his fault.

I would argue that just because you play QB doesnt mean that you are still the highest paid player on the team just because you play QB. The next example is going to be Sam Darnold who will get overpaid and whoever pays him will regret it.