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Jake Paul by TKO in round 6
Mike Tyson to fight Jake Paul (6 Viewers)
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The trailer for Netflix’s latest multimillion-dollar venture starts with a dramatic drumbeat, the slap of glove on pad, and a familiar Brooklyn drawl. “He’s a manufactured killer,” says Mike Tyson, with almost cartoon relish. “I am a natural-born killer.”
The camera then cuts to the man he will face in the early hours of Saturday UK time, the influencer Jake Paul. “We’re going to war,” predicts Paul, who made his fortune filming pranks such as I Sunk My Friend’s Car And Surprised Him With A New One before an even more lucrative pivot into boxing. “And he’s getting knocked out.”
Forget the fact that Tyson is 58 and has not fought professionally since quitting on his stool against Kevin McBride nearly 20 years ago.
Or that the 27-year-old Paul is a relative novice, who lost to the Love Island star Tommy Fury last year. More than 60,000 fans are expected to flock to the AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas to watch the fight in person, with millions more streaming it online.
But as the two men prepare to square off over eight two-minute rounds in exchange, rumours suggest, for more than $20m (£15.5m) each, the questions linger starkly in the Texas air. Is this merely a grisly pantomime?
Or should it be seen as a harbinger of what lies ahead?
And, more intriguing, why is Netflix throwing millions at this meeting of boxing’s old world with its new YouTube iteration? Especially when almost everyone in the sport believes it is a terrible idea.
Barry McGuigan, who was in his prime 40 years ago, sums up boxing’s unease particularly eloquently. “I’m 63 and Tyson’s only five years behind me,” he tells the Observer. “So the idea of him boxing any guy, even if he’s only ordinary, is just so wrong at that age. You are your reputation. That’s what people remember. And I remember Mike Tyson as a wrecking machine.
“He really was one of the most dangerous heavyweights that ever laced on gloves. There’s no doubt about that. And I don’t want people to say in 20 years’ time: ‘Oh, that’s that guy that had that sham of a fight with that YouTuber.’”
McGuigan is generous to Paul, saying he can “obviously box a bit”. But that, for him, makes the risks even greater. “A 58-year-old man shouldn’t be fighting,” he adds. “He just shouldn’t. At that age your punch resistance invariably disappears. And while we see all these clips of Tyson doing the pads, that’s not real. What’s real is sparring against good quality opposition and seeing how you look then. You can be sure he’s not doing that given his age.”
A very different perspective is offered by Adam Kelly, president of media at the global sports marketing agency IMG. Kelly accepts there are doubters, but predicts that Tyson v Paul has “the potential to break some of the all-time best ratings, and be one of the most viewed boxing matches of all time”.…….
www.theguardian.com
The camera then cuts to the man he will face in the early hours of Saturday UK time, the influencer Jake Paul. “We’re going to war,” predicts Paul, who made his fortune filming pranks such as I Sunk My Friend’s Car And Surprised Him With A New One before an even more lucrative pivot into boxing. “And he’s getting knocked out.”
Forget the fact that Tyson is 58 and has not fought professionally since quitting on his stool against Kevin McBride nearly 20 years ago.
Or that the 27-year-old Paul is a relative novice, who lost to the Love Island star Tommy Fury last year. More than 60,000 fans are expected to flock to the AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas to watch the fight in person, with millions more streaming it online.
But as the two men prepare to square off over eight two-minute rounds in exchange, rumours suggest, for more than $20m (£15.5m) each, the questions linger starkly in the Texas air. Is this merely a grisly pantomime?
Or should it be seen as a harbinger of what lies ahead?
And, more intriguing, why is Netflix throwing millions at this meeting of boxing’s old world with its new YouTube iteration? Especially when almost everyone in the sport believes it is a terrible idea.
Barry McGuigan, who was in his prime 40 years ago, sums up boxing’s unease particularly eloquently. “I’m 63 and Tyson’s only five years behind me,” he tells the Observer. “So the idea of him boxing any guy, even if he’s only ordinary, is just so wrong at that age. You are your reputation. That’s what people remember. And I remember Mike Tyson as a wrecking machine.
“He really was one of the most dangerous heavyweights that ever laced on gloves. There’s no doubt about that. And I don’t want people to say in 20 years’ time: ‘Oh, that’s that guy that had that sham of a fight with that YouTuber.’”
McGuigan is generous to Paul, saying he can “obviously box a bit”. But that, for him, makes the risks even greater. “A 58-year-old man shouldn’t be fighting,” he adds. “He just shouldn’t. At that age your punch resistance invariably disappears. And while we see all these clips of Tyson doing the pads, that’s not real. What’s real is sparring against good quality opposition and seeing how you look then. You can be sure he’s not doing that given his age.”
A very different perspective is offered by Adam Kelly, president of media at the global sports marketing agency IMG. Kelly accepts there are doubters, but predicts that Tyson v Paul has “the potential to break some of the all-time best ratings, and be one of the most viewed boxing matches of all time”.…….
‘It’s dumb, but I’ll watch it’: why Tyson’s Netflix brawl is big box office
YouTuber Jake Paul versus the 58-year-old boxing legend – a grizzly pantomime? Or a grim harbinger of the future?
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Mark Borkowski is the public relations maestro who has worked with everyone from Mikhail Gorbachev to Diego Maradona to Jim Rose, an American exhibitionist who used to hang weights from his penis.
Borkowski also helped Ian Botham recreate Hannibal’s walk across the Alps with elephants, and, for his sins, was the mastermind behind Cliff Richard’s Saviour’s Day reaching Christmas No 1, despite minimal radio play.
So who better to talk about the biggest sporting stunt of the year, Mike Tyson’s fight against Jake Paul, which will be streamed into 300m homes via Netflix this weekend?
Instinctively, as I told Borkowski, I hate the idea. Most boxing fans do.
It sells a myth that wasn’t even close to being a reality in 2004, let alone 2024: namely that Tyson is one of the most ferocious warriors alive, not a 58-year-old who lost 26lb in May after an ulcer flare-up that left him throwing up blood and defecating tar.
It risks Tyson’s boxing reputation and his health. And, Netflix’s lavish promotion aside, it feels more like a sham or a circus than a genuine sporting event.
But I may be wrong. Certainly Borkowksi thinks so. He believes the fight is straight out of the playbook of PT Barnum, the greatest showman of all and a curator of the absurd and extraordinary, who instinctively knew what the public wanted long before they did. And that it will cut through to the masses.
“Barnum understood how to engage the crowd – the great herd, the great unwashed,” he says. “This fight is about opportunism. It’s about creative thinking. And it is already generating the oxygen of publicity, which is always an indication that something is going to be very successful.”
As Borkowski points out, it taps into two big markets: Boomers and Gen Xers, who grew up watching Tyson, as well as the younger generations who worship Jake Paul, many of whom will want to watch.…….
www.theguardian.com
Borkowski also helped Ian Botham recreate Hannibal’s walk across the Alps with elephants, and, for his sins, was the mastermind behind Cliff Richard’s Saviour’s Day reaching Christmas No 1, despite minimal radio play.
So who better to talk about the biggest sporting stunt of the year, Mike Tyson’s fight against Jake Paul, which will be streamed into 300m homes via Netflix this weekend?
Instinctively, as I told Borkowski, I hate the idea. Most boxing fans do.
It sells a myth that wasn’t even close to being a reality in 2004, let alone 2024: namely that Tyson is one of the most ferocious warriors alive, not a 58-year-old who lost 26lb in May after an ulcer flare-up that left him throwing up blood and defecating tar.
It risks Tyson’s boxing reputation and his health. And, Netflix’s lavish promotion aside, it feels more like a sham or a circus than a genuine sporting event.
But I may be wrong. Certainly Borkowksi thinks so. He believes the fight is straight out of the playbook of PT Barnum, the greatest showman of all and a curator of the absurd and extraordinary, who instinctively knew what the public wanted long before they did. And that it will cut through to the masses.
“Barnum understood how to engage the crowd – the great herd, the great unwashed,” he says. “This fight is about opportunism. It’s about creative thinking. And it is already generating the oxygen of publicity, which is always an indication that something is going to be very successful.”
As Borkowski points out, it taps into two big markets: Boomers and Gen Xers, who grew up watching Tyson, as well as the younger generations who worship Jake Paul, many of whom will want to watch.…….
Mike Tyson v Jake Paul is the apex event of content masquerading as sport | Sean Ingle
Like most boxing fans I hate the idea of this deluded nonsense but there certainly seems to be a market for it
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I don't think many boomers even know who Jake Paul is. And I don't think many genX'ers want to see a 60 year old Tyson.
If anyone is a fan of boxing, would they want to watch this "fight"?
Yeah, Mike Tyson fighting for a retirement check, but I think he could get hurt. Jake might lose an ear/nose/part of his skull in this one, if Tyson gets frustrated.
Reminds me a little bit, when Ali went in the ring, past his prime.
Reminds me a little bit, when Ali went in the ring, past his prime.
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I’m not interested and haven’t heard anything about this outside of this thread.
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Ali was 39 in his last fight. Tyson is 58. Lol.
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be real. Tyson isn't the same man he was back then. He and Paul are actually friends. I think if Tyson is 20% of his former self, He'll destroy him, quickly.
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I know who both those idiots Jake and Logan Paul are. I've been waiting for this.
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I would never root for someone to be killed in the ring; however, if it happened to Paul, I wouldn't grieve.
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Probably. Deep down I think many want to see those they "idolized" to turn back the clock and "beat Father Time." Of course we know Father Time is undefeated, but I think some people want to see him tested at least.
And some just want the spectacle, of which boxing has always held dear in other ways.
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