NFL Rumors: Salary Cap 'Expected to Reach' $208.2M for 2022-23 Season (2 Viewers)

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Unfortunately the Saints got into this salary cap hell by reaching to field a viable team during Breesus' final years in the show. It didn't work out and and now the bill is due. There are three likely possibilities. First, take in in the Kester next season and imitate Detroit for a season and dig out of this hole. Second, defer half the debt, renegotiate some of the contracts and pay for the one's expiring. This will last a few seasons to become solvent. Third, renegotiate the deals kicking the can further down the road thus limiting future flexibility. If history is any gauge the saints will probable go the Keynesian route and not Friedman and we will be talking about this same dilemma for years to come.
 
Goatman Saint said:
Cutting Cam saves 1.2 million, Jenkins 3.2, Thomas 2 million, Winston is 3 million dead money so zero savings and cutting Pete will be a net loss of 9.2 million ( costs more to get rid of than keep). So your cuts would leave us 2.8 million further in the red
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Well, that's no good. Would trading them save us any money?
 

NFL informs clubs 2022 salary cap projected to be $208.2 million

The salary cap will rise next year. The NFL informed clubs Tuesday that the 2022 salary cap is projected to be $208.2 million, Tom Pelissero reports. That is the maximum amount agreed upon by the NFL and NFL Players Association in May, and it's a $25.7 million increase from the previous year.
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People are obsessed with the idea of cap space. Why? I'm convinced some of you would rather have cap space and a talentless roster over no space and a good roster. Cap space doesn't win games, players do. Players cost money. But because of the cap situation, yall want to het rid of our best players, bail out on the best defense we've had in years and start from scratch??? Cap space doesn't guarantee you good players. Cap space doesn't guarantee you good players. The fascination with rebuilding is a lot like that movie Hall Pass, where the wife grants the guy a "hall pass" to do whatever he wants. It sounds tempting but when you're out there searching you realize its a whole lot easier to deal with the winning roster you have at home. And that's the thing, the Saints roster is pretty damn good minus a couple positions. Rebuild/cap space reset season only means you now have even more holes.
 
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Merl said:
They have no choice but to kick the can again next year just to get under the cap and sign enough players to get to a 53 man roster. They are literally at the point of the 2010-11 Raiders at this point.
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Maybe the keep Brees strategy at all costs was not so good. We still have one more year of cap hell.
 
mr.t said:
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Maybe the keep Brees strategy at all costs was not so good. We still have one more year of cap hell.
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YOu can't win the superbowl if you don't make the playoffs and the Saints won the NFC South the last 4 years in a row. ]

I'd say the win with Brees strategy was pretty freaking good.
 
dtc said:
YOu can't win the superbowl if you don't make the playoffs and the Saints won the NFC South the last 4 years in a row. ]

I'd say the win with Brees strategy was pretty freaking good.
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So, we don't win the Superbowl and are in cap limbo. Not good to me.
 
WCoastSaintsFan said:
Because cap space equals roster flexibility. Right now we have a largely “talentless roster” on offense AND no cap space. Plus we have no depth behind the few guys that are good. Cap space allows you the chance to fix that as soon as the next free agency period. While other teams, some of them very good already, will be active in free agency, we’ll be dormant and having already shed some good players just to get under. Many will be starting threads in March that say “Why haven’t we signed anybody?” or “Can he play safety?” and the answer will likely be that we didn’t have cap flexibility to address pressing team needs because we’re using our cap space on restructured contracts and void years for players no longer on the team.
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This is absurd.

A "talentless roster" is not at all what we have.

We have an injured roster filled with all pros and probowlers.

Heisman Trophy winners in Winston and Ingram, the NFL's best back in Kamarra, Michael Thomas, Ram, Armstead...

We spent our flexibility to build a roster of top line talent. You can't build a roster planning on having all of your best players hurt and still keep it under the cap or your best chance is to be the Jets.
 
WCoastSaintsFan said:
First, Heisman trophies are worth exactly squat in the NFL. Our QB room is a list of should be backups, not top 20 nfl starters. Our line has some good parts, but Armstead and Peat haven’t played a whole season in a while, so their injury issues are not new. Peat and Ruiz get constantly flogged on this forum for being terrible and Armstead isn’t under contract next year but leaves around $13 million in dead money if we don’t extend him because of the void year in his contract that we used to get under the cap. That is where quality depth comes in and we don’t have that on the line. Outside of MT and AK, with MT having not played much in the last two years, we had basically nothing but practice squad level skill position players to start the season. In fact we lost our top WR and TE last offseason due to the cap. Ingram came in via a trade mid season from a bad team and is making close to league minimum. He was not part of the plan and cost us a draft pick to get. This is an offense that has some former pro bowlers on it, but I don’t think the entire team will have one this year if Blake Gillikin doesn‘t get in. Some of that is due to injury but a lot of it is due to lack of talent.
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You seem to argue just to hear yourself type and what you said wasn't true. You can sit here and blather on about whatever you want, but the truth is that we have exactly the opposite of a "talentless roster" and a Heisman Trophy may not portend NFL success, but it's a pretty damn good marker of talent.

Injuries don't eliminate talent.
Trades don't remove talent.
SR posts about Peat don't refute his obvious talent.

Ingram having cost a draft pick doesn't negate his clear and valuable talent nor does the fact he was cheap or from a bad team.

Nothing you said supports your argument.

Have a good day.
 

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