Nick Underhill: Players organizing a Players-Only Meeting (10 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

I would wholeheartedly agree with this

Well, he's absolutely not though.

 

[DSnfla]

Well, he's absolutely not though.

Could not disagree more. GB will never fire ML.DL might but I doubt she would let him. ML tells GB what he wants and she goes along with it

 

[DaveXA]

Could not disagree more. GB will never fire ML.DL might but I doubt she would let him. ML tells GB what he wants and she goes along with it

So? That doesn't have anything to do with ownership of the team. He has zero stake in it, and same with DL. While they run the team, the buck stops with Gayle. When she passes, the team will be sold, and they get none of it.

 

[DSnfla]

So? That doesn't have anything to do with ownership of the team. He has zero stake in it, and same with DL. While they run the team, the buck stops with Gayle. When she passes, the team will be sold, and they get none of it.

Did you not say pseudo? ML acts like he IS the owner. and she lets him. Mrs B is a sweet lady but a weak owner

 

[DaveXA]

Did you not say pseudo? ML acts like he IS the owner. and she lets him. Mrs B is a sweet lady but a weak owner

And you have zero evidence to back this up. I've already posted 2 examples where she's been involved in personnel decisions.

But whatever, you can think what you want.

 

[DSnfla]

And you have zero evidence to back this up. I've already posted 2 examples where she's been involved in personnel decisions.

But whatever, you can think what you want.

Being involved by pretty much letting ML telling her what he wants to do and taking the bull by the horns is very much two different things. Sitting in on a meeting and being involved are not the same

 

[DaveXA]

Being involved by pretty much letting ML telling her what he wants to do and taking the bull by the horns is very much two different things. Sitting in on a meeting and being involved are not the same

The problem with that is you have no idea what's said behind closed doors. I mean, you can ignore what she and others have said about it. That's certainly your choice.

 

[St. Widge]

Yep. He was in Benson's Will to run the team for Gayle. He is an owner in all but name.

You have a copy of that Will you can link to?

 

[Saint Jack]

History says in the Benson era if you don’t get at least seven wins, you’re fired.

 

[St. Widge]

DA has made this fanbase lose it's collective sanity. It's gone from fire DA to fire Loomis to Gayle Benson has to sell the team to be good to Loomis is an owner and can't be fired.

Seriously people. Calm down.

 

[St. Geezy]

DA has made this fanbase lose it's collective sanity. It's gone from fire DA to fire Loomis to Gayle Benson has to sell the team to be good to Loomis is an owner and can't be fired.

Seriously people. Calm down.

It’s incredible.

People searching for who to point the finger at. People creating fantasy scenarios of how things operate to justify their anger at certain individuals.

The conversations people are wanting to happen with management could very well be happening every day behind closed doors, but since nothing is being said publicly, they assume the worst, including thinking a person that owns a multi-billion enterprise doesn’t care about it.

These people in the building want to win and are willing to make changes, but like most professional organizations don’t do the whole public babbling/complaining thing or the “issuing ultimatums through the media” thing.

 

[Madmarsha]

I know people wanted this to be the team plotting mutiny against DA and Loomis

That is for us, the fans. Look, I am willing to join a picket line at Airline Highway if anyone could care to organize one. I may draw the line at wielding a mace or a trident and storming Dennis or Mickey's houses. But if we go 7 losses in a row for the first time since 1999, I'm totally down for setting up a trebuchet in the parking lot and hurling flaming bags of dog poo onto the practice field.

 

[St. Widge]

That is for us, the fans. Look, I am willing to join a picket line at Airline Highway if anyone could care to organize one. I may draw the line at wielding a mace or a trident and storming Dennis or Mickey's houses. But if we go 7 losses in a row for the first time since 1999, I'm totally down for setting up a trebuchet in the parking lot and hurling flaming bags of dog poo onto the practice field.

Lol. I agree with the general premise that the fans need to make their displeasure known and that the fans need to keep the heat up to make sure Loomis moves on from DA. While I like the flaming poo trebuchet idea because it has style, maybe a billboard near the Dome with an open letter to the organization from the fanbase making sure that they know that the current state of the team is not acceptable? Maybe something more restrained and more respectful that fire DA now?

Or the flaming bags of poo. I'm good either way.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

So? That doesn't have anything to do with ownership of the team. He has zero stake in it, and same with DL. While they run the team, the buck stops with Gayle. When she passes, the team will be sold, and they get none of it.

Correct. However, I think the point is that via his relationship with Gayle and involvement in the succession of the team, makes him pretty much untouchable and he yields a great deal of power (and little accountability).

 

[St. Widge]

Correct. However, I think the point is that via his relationship with Gayle and involvement in the succession of the team, makes him pretty much untouchable and he yields a great deal of power (and little accountability).

I'm sure because of the relationship he will get more leeway and more chances than a GM with no past history with the family. At the same point, Loomis does answer to Dennis Lauscha and ultimately Gayle Benson. Maybe they wouldn't kick him out on the street. But they might move him out of the GM role and into some sort of executive VP role.

As far as the power Loomis has, all GMs have a lot of power within an organization. It's the nature of the job.