St.Dan
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Those suspensions got overturned when Tagliabue was brought in as an independent arbiter. Tags found no evidence to support the notion that the players were doing anything intentionally harmful. I think only hargrove’s wasn’t and I think that was because he wasn’t currently on a team - though my memory might be shaky on that.If I'm one of the players suspended for the BG scandal, I'm having some conversations with a legal advisor over this.
And it should be noted that not one Saints player missed a game due to suspension that season since the suspensions were put off while the players appealed them.Those suspensions got overturned when Tagliabue was brought in as an independent arbiter. Tags found no evidence to support the notion that the players were doing anything intentionally harmful. I think only hargrove’s wasn’t and I think that was because he wasn’t currently on a team - though my memory might be shaky on that.
Payton couldn’t get his overturned because the NFL coaches don’t have a union to fight on their behalf and (I think) they are viewed as independent contractors.
If I remember correctly, there is a coaches' union, but at the time (of Bountygate), Payton & Belichick were the only coaches not in the union... mind you this was what I read, or what was reported at the time. This was the reason that Payton didn't fight the suspension, because he didn't have that option like Vilma did ❤.Those suspensions got overturned when Tagliabue was brought in as an independent arbiter. Tags found no evidence to support the notion that the players were doing anything intentionally harmful. I think only hargrove’s wasn’t and I think that was because he wasn’t currently on a team - though my memory might be shaky on that.
Payton couldn’t get his overturned because the NFL coaches don’t have a union to fight on their behalf and (I think) they are viewed as independent contractors.
Nope. Both sides contributed to the SB win. On defense, Manning and Addai had their way with us all day. To GW's credit the defense did just enough to keep points off the board. Garcon dropped a ball on the numbers to kill a drive, missed field goals and of course the ill-fated interception by Porter when they were driving to tie the game.A tell for me was when Payton coached a Super Bowl win...in which arguable the crucial factor was the defensive performance and game plan led by Gregg Williams....he went on to write his book, start hanging out with Kenny Chesney, took up with Miss W. Virginia and divorced his wife. Classic story not unlike Ed Orgeron. Reveals true character. Flawed character.
Just wondering when we decided to use 'female' all of the time instead of woman or girl? That's been a new thing over the last couple of years. Anybody know when we made this switch?If this Commanders dude was just trying to make up some BS story to impress a female, he could dream up something way juicier than this.
Grrrlll, Brit doesn't get it.Just wondering when we decided to use 'female' all of the time instead of woman or girl? That's been a new thing over the last couple of years. Anybody know when we made this switch?
Either way, the game was sealed by the defense and the turnovers were key all season even to get to the Super Bowl.Nope. Both sides contributed to the SB win. On defense, Manning and Addai had their way with us all day. To GW's credit the defense did just enough to keep points off the board. Garcon dropped a ball on the numbers to kill a drive, missed field goals and of course the ill-fated interception by Porter when they were driving to tie the game.
On Payton's offensive side of the ball, he and Brees had that defense on their heels the last three quarters of the game. First drive killed by a Colston drop, the fourth down stop of Bell on the goal line. A forgotten hero of that game was Hartley.
I know you don't care for Payton, but to not give him his due for that Super Bowl win is disingenuous. You're better than that.
So, if i understand you currently, it was winning the Superbowl that made you stop liking Payton.Either way, the game was sealed by the defense and the turnovers were key all season even to get to the Super Bowl.
But the point was about how the success was handled by Payton, which was not well. And this gets to the core of why I lost respect for Payton. From this point on I lost patience with his pass pass pass and terrible defenses and arrogant lack of self reflection.