Pass Interference Penalties (1 Viewer)

[Loomissed]

We don't need to change rules to start winning.
How about we just start playing better instead?

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

We can keep the rule the same...I just want to see egregiously underthtown deep balls ruled uncatchable

 

[Get in the Carr]

We can keep the rule the same...I just want to see egregiously underthtown deep balls ruled uncatchable

I remember when the Rex Grossman lead Bears would do this to us every time we met. They would do it to other teams as well and i thought for sure there would be some changes made because it was becoming a problem. I don’t know how you change the rule without messing up the game except for being more strict on what is a catchable ball.

 

[Bill]

I must vehemently disagree with you here my friend. I've hated the spot foul penalty for quite some time, and it has NOTHING to do with the Saints. It's more tied to my fanaticism for the integrity of the game. I have seen way too many very good, competitive, entertaining, hard-fought games decided by a ticky-tack PI call. I hate it whether the Saints are on the field or not, and I hate it whether the Saints are the beneficiary or not. The PI spot foul is obsolete and is no longer relevant for today's NFL where the strength, speed, and athleticism of the players are at levels never imagined.

There’s no doubt that the way pass interference is sometimes interpreted makes those huge penalties harder to deal with. I totally agree that the NFL needs to better define what is a legitimate defensive pass interference (or offensive pass interference). But I can assure you that if the penalty was the same as the college rule, the scenario we were in today would have been a perfect time for the defense to interfere to the degree necessary to stop any pass from being completed… because a 15 yard penalty would not have been nearly as bad as the 30+ yard penalty we actually got.

To not have such a big penalty at that critical moment could keep a legitimate comeback attempt get spoiled by having the defense win by interfering with the receiver. To eliminate the spot foul would give the defense the upper hand when the opposing offense is trying to put together a last-minute, game-winning drive. I already have seen this happen in college football. There’s no doubt the same thing would happen in the pros.

It would be far better just to teach the officials what a real DPI is and call it appropriately.

 

[SaintRay]

For the record ….

It was a 30 yard penalty that put the Falcons in business at the Saints 40 yard line.

Had it been college rules, it would have been Falcons ball at the Falcon 45 yard line.

 

[Infoman]

I heard Adebo grabbed Mooney and threw him outta his car in the parking lot after the game

 

[timpoulos]

I was watching the Fox post game show on TV a little bit ago. The crew was talking about how crazy some of these pass interference penalties can be. They can easily be a 30-50 yard penalty.

When teams are losing, they throw deep knowing if they don’t complete the pass they may well gain a penalty, and in many cases that will flip the game.

Jimmy Johnson in particular said it’s ridiculous and NFL should consider the college rule limiting the penalty to 15 yards.

Forget that it happened to the Saints today, but what’s your opinion on this type of rule change?

Man I agree. I dont think I've been this pissed at a loss in a long time. They cannot call a little bump in this situation to decide a game. Atlanta gets a 10 second run off they throw the hail Mary and they call it. An absolute mockery of a call. I'm getting tired of the NFL. I'm not quite sure how much more of this I can take.

 

[Blazing Saint]

This isn't NFL Blitz.

 

[Blazing Saint]

Man I agree. I dont think I've been this pissed at a loss in a long time. They cannot call a little bump in this situation to decide a game. Atlanta gets a 10 second run off they throw the hail Mary and they call it. An absolute mockery of a call. I'm getting tired of the NFL. I'm not quite sure how much more of this I can take.

Did you saw the last two Chiefs games?

 

[Kingston]

There is absolutely no way you can change that rule in the pros.

Professional DB’s are so good and they are coached so good that the long pass play would become a thing of the past. If your a DB getting beat deep past that 15 yard mark you simply commit PI and avoid the long pass. You see it some times on the NCAA level too it’s just guys get more open on that level so even if they wanted to commit PI a lot of the times they are too far away to do so.

In the nfl getting open consist of having a couple of steps on a DB. In the NCAA getting open is usually a few yards on a DB.

I hate it don’t get me wrong but in this level of play it’s a necessary evil. It’s no different than in the NBA players there will run up on a defender and heve the ball up on a three point with half intention of making the shot the other intention is to draw the foul and get to the line to shoot three.

Today not having Davis out there and loosing the Badger allowed what happened to happen. We didn’t need to commit pi today but ATL played it perfectly to draw the foul no different than James Harden flopping on a three in the nba. Coaching on the professional levels of both sports are so good and the players are so smart it would just fundentmemtaly alter the game too much to make a change to that rule.

This has just been such a frustrating couple of weeks today we were by far the better team, last week we were the better team we are just messing up on defense in key moments we let Goddert get open and choked vs. Philly and we commited a bonehead PI today. We were better than both teams we just lapsed at key moments after our much melined offense won the games for us we eat one more down on the goal line and eat more clock today we win we cover the line playmaker last week we are sitting here at 4–0.

All is not lost if TB can beat ATL next Thursday we can pull off a win in KC we are sitting in great shape with a win vs. tB. I think we beat KC next week do that and we can be right where we need to be. We gotta keep chopping wood as DA would say. We are right there in all of these games.

 

[play action]

when things are balanced its bad when they aren't it's crooked yeah Einstein stuff not.

 

[MSUSousaphone]

I say keep the rule the way it is. It hurts watching us give up a massive chunk of yardage on a PI call but there is some solace in watching it, seeing how blatantly bad our DBs are doing it, and realizing it is justified.

On the flip side, if we threw a 50 yard bomb that was going to be an obvious TD but the opposing DB who knew he was beat took advantage of a college rule and intentionally took the PI call for just 15 yards to prevent our TD I'd be livid and would have trouble moving past it.

At the least have degrees of PI calls. 15 yards for a minor infraction on a tough play and spot of the foul for egregious errors and no other defender nearby to stop them.

 

[St. Geezy]

Yeah, I like this. Otherwise, if a team is trying to make a long game-winning drive, the defense can just PI and limit the offense to 15 yards per play.

15 yard penalties are devastating in end of game situations. How many of these are even committable before you find yourself in the exact same situation you were trying to prevent?

Maybe if they changed it to the 15 yard penalty rule, which I know won't happen, they create situational rules regarding it...sort of like the rules they instituted when they saw some teams intentionally holding on defense near the end of games to run the clock out.

I'd imagine an official would be able to tell the difference between organic P.I. versus intentional P.I.

I honestly just don't buy the argument that NFL players are so skilled that suddenly we'd just start seeing strategic intentional P.I. run rampant. These guys are competitors, and if they're in position to P.I., it means they're also in position to make a play, and they will try to, legally, just like every other level of football we see.

 

[hank4]

Paulson Adebo has historically bit on double moves. He always peaks at the qb and uses his closing speed to make up he cost the game

What about Saheed's muff and going for it on fourth down instead of taking the points. Did those things contribute? Point is, one play never loses a game