Penning and Fuaga!!!! (4 Viewers)

[VPCajun]

He looks like he is killing that man

Or baptizing him. Into the netherworld...

 

[woohoosaint]

 

[CJL]

Fuaga is a absoulate monster and is already one of the best tackles in the nfl​

 

[Cougar 2]

Fuaga is a absoulate monster and is already one of the best tackles in the nfl​

AND he went up against one of the best passrushing defenses in da NFL, on only 2 DAYS of practice!!!

Just another day at da office for Big FU!

 

[DSnfla]

The only bad hot take that I ever saw was that he was that his footwork is too slow to be a tackle.

Which I thought is absurd when he had the best athletic metrics for a tackle in the draft.



What he was struggling was the mental aspect of the game and lack of experience.

His struggles were healthy criticism. What wasn't fair was how they used him in a scheme that put him in a constant disadvantage with the rest of the line.

He played too high, too hesitant, and used poor leverage at times. He still has the tools to be great if they could figure how to best use him. Which Klint and his line coach did magnificently.

We all knew that TP needed some work coming in , especially on pass-pro . In his 1st 2 yrs he was not able to get that work due to injury. But yet Marrone and the coaching staff threw him in the starting lineup anyway. What happened ? Of course he struggled. I kept saying give him time , he's getting better every game , and the bench him . Taking away the one thing he needed , REPS . 90% of the people on her could not see that all they said was he's garbage , he's a bust , trade him for a bag of chips. I know that as soon as we got rid of Marrone and hired a good OL coach TP would turn it around. Benton moved him to RT and the 1st game in pre-season he struggled ( 1st game at a new position , DUH) I still said give him time. Again no one listened, Now they are SEEING

 

[Infoman]

All credit to the big fellas…. But if we are being honest this success is all on Kubiak. He’s playing to these guys strengths, and away from their opponents strengths. We only threw 16 times and had like 36 rushes. That’s how you take a guy like Parsons out the game. You run at him and watch him go to the sideline.

Were were efficient doing both. But the run game dominated and lead to huge plays with no pressure when we passed.

 

[DSnfla]

Let’s clear something up…. All the doubt and criticism of Penning he was getting before the season… was valid and deserved. He was bad. His technique was bad. His foot work was bad. His balance was bad. It was almost all bad.

Just like the praise he is getting now for being able to get out of his own head, fit into this scheme, and do his job at a high level.... is now valid and deserved.

I was someone who said that if he looked like the same guy in the first few games of the season, as the guy I saw last year…. It was time to cut him and move on.

Him making improvements and actually playing well now doesn’t make take wrong, nor does it make me a hater.

It just means he’s done what he has to to so far to be an asset to the team and help us win. And that’s all any of us ever wanted from him the last 2 years.

I think this system has helped him considerably by allowing him to run block more, move forward more than backwards, get help on long developing passes and he has to think much less…. Thereby allowing his feet to actually work.

It’s good to see and I am happy I don’t have to think about him being a weak link, and that the Saints don’t have to move on from him out of necessity.

Sorry you all were wrong, None of you took into consideration the circumstances of his 1st 2 yrs here. The injuries, the BAD OL coaching the the fact that anyone that knows anything knew that he needed work in pass-pro coming out of college. he was hurt for his rookie yr and the offseason so he got no work, then was thrust into the starting lineup. He struggled DUH. Then they benched him depriving him of the one thing he needed , REPS. Marrone is a BAD OL coach and the whole OL showed it. I kept saying TP needed a good OL coach and he would be fine , What happens ? Benton and Dennison come in and they move him and he gets better every game JUST like he did last yr
Very few of you could see that. You couldn't see what a few of us saw. Just like Jim Mora said " You think you know , but you don't know , and you never will "

 

[DSnfla]

All credit to the big fellas…. But if we are being honest this success is all on Kubiak. He’s playing to these guys strengths, and away from theirs. We only threw 16 times and had like 36 rushes. That’s how you take a guy like Parsons out the game. You run at him and watch him go to the sideline.

Were were efficient doing both. But the run game dominated and lead to huge plays with no pressure when we passed.

LOL maybe you should go look at some of the 1 on 1's both in the run and pass-pro TP , TF and our OL were mauling them. We only threw 16 times BECAUSE we ran it so well and we were up by so much. When you're up by so much why throw the ball?

 

[DSnfla]

In the end, whatever his story was, whatever the speedbumps on his journey, Penning needed to produce this year. That was the bottom line. If he didn't produce then he was going to be replaced, more than likely by someone with lesser physical gifts. He needed to produce for his career and he needed to produce for us to have a chance to be good.

He has produced.

I still don't feel he's someone you want to leave on an island for 20 reps a game (yet) but with this scheme, and because Fuaga is legit, that's ok. As long as we can run the ball effectively we can mitigate his current weaknesses and, with time, he can hopefully polish up his pass pro technique to the point where you can leave him on an island more often and not worry too much about it (like Fuaga).

I'm just so glad he's showing out because we really, really needed him to be capable. And he's been more than capable, particularly in the run game - and for us, the run game has to work because our offense is based on it. Having played this same scheme in College (from Mike Shanahan's college roommate as OC), it's a wonderful symbiosis where the scheme allows you to run effectively, and because you can run effectively, pass pro is easier. It made our (frankly, sub-average) college OL with questionable talents, into a really effective unit.

Glad you said YET

 

[DSnfla]

Heck yeah people were down on him. What did you expect from a high pick. Glad to see the switch turn on or was preseason a bait.

You like all the others could not see beneath the surface as to the WHY . You were all low hanging fruit pickers

 

[DSnfla]

It was more scheme than talent, This Scheme fits the atletic young Oline like a glove

NO , like I said for the last 2 yrs Marone was awful and wasted our OL since he got here and did a disservice to Penning

 

[DSnfla]

As a a raw prospect that needed some polishing, Penning came into a less than ideal situation in terms of scheme. The defenders he was trying to block didn't have to worry about anything but pinning their ears back and hauling it to the passer. Just get to the QB. Elite athletes were allowed to use muscle memory and instinct. Not much thinking going on.

Now those same defenders are being forced to think. Is it another run down my throat? Is it a screen? What is Taysom Hill doing back there? There's another guy going in motion, what's his deal? Wait, do they have that fast WR lined up at RB? What's up with that?

Simply forcing a defense to hesitate for a split second makes all the difference in the world. Not just for Penning but for every single position on offense. Amazing what a little imagination and creativity can do for an offense.

I'll add to that TP was hurt most of his rookie yr and the following offseason so for a guy that needed work he got none, Then they thrust him into a starting role that he got little work for. Of course he struggled. So what does Marrone and the coaching staff do? The bench him after he had been getting better every game . Yeah that's the way to develop a player take away his reps

 

[Jesse Custer]

All credit to the big fellas…. But if we are being honest this success is all on Kubiak. He’s playing to these guys strengths, and away from theirs. We only threw 16 times and had like 36 rushes. That’s how you take a guy like Parsons out the game. You run at him and watch him go to the sideline.

Were were efficient doing both. But the run game dominated and lead to huge plays with no pressure when we passed.

Finally DA's comment about wanting a run-first offense makes sense. Even he got tired of PC's "let's have Alvin run dives on 3rd and 10" play design.

 

[Belfast Saint]

Glad you said YET

Well, I think it's accurate. He still has a lot of room for development. He's turning some of that potential into production which is great, but that well is far from dry. I'm always a big believer in the ability to develop (through hard work and good coaching), but as you have pointed out on numerous occasions, he's had a journey where going into his 3rd year, he's not had a chance for 3 full years of development.

 

[Lustmord]

happy for penning i didnt do a play by play breakdown yet, but man he was solid

fuaga looks like an all pro already