PFT Live with Chris "Crybaby" Kluwe and Peter Ginsberg (2 Viewers)

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V Chip said:
F: 18,000 documents sounds like a lot of evidence. Have you seen then and do you believe that number?

G: I don't think there is anything that proves bounty. Only information I have seen is through the media, nothing from the comissioner.

F: any explanation from the NFL why?

G: No.
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I thought the NFL released the Hargrove document and e-mails? However of the 18,000 documents the ones that are know are the joke e-mails from Orstein, Williams admission, & Hargroves statement... I think the remaining 17,995 documents were wrtten on NFL Commissioners stationary.:rant:
 
SoggyBottomBoy said:
I think the main point is that that seems to be first time that Ginsberg didn't straight up answer a question, for whatever reason. It caught my attention as well. Actually, I'm surprised this is first time Ginsberg has answered a question in a deflective manner. I'm amazed that he's been answering so definitively.

As for Rugger's "I think there's something there" well, I hope not.

And, I have to say Florio asked excellent questions.
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The main point is that Ginsberg and Vilma have the leverage. Ginsberg is doing exactly what the NFL did....playing this out thru the media for the General Public. ( funny since he declined comment as to their "strategy" on PK and Ryans show yesterday- but its pretty obvious now )

Ginsberg has been on 3 shows in 3 days. Im sure more to come. This is all calculated. Its the proverbial "call" on Goodell. If Goodell keeps quiet, they will continue the sports radio/media circuit.

And again, i recommend the PK/Ryan interview in which at minute 9:15 Pk asks :

PK: the issue about the $10,000 bouny, if u can talk about it...was there, wasnt there..?

Ginsberg: Absolutely, unequivocally not.


go listen. starts at 9:15.

so much for the " not answering straight up" idea...
 
It's good to hear Ginsberg putting the word out. He's got the NFL scurrying to cover up their lies.
 
Devildog said:
Florio.

Also, Kluwe just said that He and Ryan Longwell thought there was something "off" about the way the Saints were going after Favre. I mean, the 2 biggest non football players on the field thought something was "off."

It's the damn NFC Championship game to go to the Super Bowl. Maybe if your team would've played better and had our intensity..............
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Those two giants of football..the......kickers....
 
efil4stnias said:
The main point is that Ginsberg and Vilma have the leverage. Ginsberg is doing exactly what the NFL did....playing this out thru the media for the General Public. ( funny since he declined comment as to their "strategy" on PK and Ryans show yesterday- but its pretty obvious now )

Ginsberg has been on 3 shows in 3 days. Im sure more to come. This is all calculated. Its the proverbial "call" on Goodell. If Goodell keeps quiet, they will continue the sports radio/media circuit.

And again, i recommend the PK/Ryan interview in which at minute 9:15 Pk asks :

PK: the issue about the $10,000 bouny, if u can talk about it...was there, wasnt there..?

Ginsberg: Absolutely, unequivocally not.


go listen. starts at 9:15.

so much for the " not answering straight up" idea...
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That is not want Florio asked. He did not ask if Vimla put up a 10000 bounty. He asked if he presented the money, even as a motivator or in jest, in the locker room. That is much different than offering a bounty, which implies the intent to hurt another player for money. IMO they are two separate things. I do not think it is a big deal as a fan, but I am not sure how that would hold up in the appeals process if Vimla indeed used it as a motivator or flashed the money before the game.

You do realize that no one is attacking Vilma here right? Just thought it was a change from Ginsbergs normal way of answering. From what I understand Vilma never denied flashing the money in the lockerroom, but he did deny attempting to give it to someone and that it was his money offered.
 
Rugger said:
That is not want Florio asked. He did not ask if Vimla put up a 10000 bounty. He asked if he presented the money, even as a motivator or in jest, in the locker room. That is much different than offering a bounty, which implies the intent to hurt another player for money. IMO they are two separate things. I do not think it is a big deal as a fan, but I am not sure how that would hold up in the appeals process if Vimla indeed used it as a motivator or flashed the money before the game.

You do realize that no one is attacking Vilma here right? Just thought it was a change from Ginsbergs normal way of answering. From what I understand Vilma never denied flashing the money in the lockerroom, but he did deny attempting to give it to someone and that it was his money offered.
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PK didnt ask if VILMA put up the $10k....he simply asked if the $10k rumor was even TRUE ( in any way, shape or form )

you read his response...pretty straight to me.
 
saintkreaux said:
I think it was around the 3rd time that Peterson fumbled, and that we didn't recover, that made me literally put a hole in the wall with my fist.
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It appeared that they practiced CAUSING FUMBLES and not RECOVERING THEM!

I think I read where GW taught them to try to ALWAYS Pick Them Up and RUN.

How DUMB is THAT!

And we saw the proof in the NFCC game alone!

And along with my rant - they need to learn to PREVENT the FUMBLER from Recovering his own fumble!!!!
 

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