Quinn Ewers had a meeting with the Saints at the Combine (11 Viewers)

[Domeination]

Would y'all take a chance on him in the 4th or 5th round?

No

 

[Elvis]

I don't think the Carr move this year means that they won't do that. It just means that they didn't think it made sense financially this year because they wouldn't have any more to add players to improve the team. It's not the way I would have done it, but I don't think it's the sign of some long term commitment to only playing veteran QBs.

I get that we need to draft more players, but one pick on a QB isn't really going to change that. And, frankly, there is no position that we need to upgrade more than QB.

Also, as often as Carr is now getting hurt, there may be plenty playing time for Rattler or another young QB.

Like I said, I don't disagree. The problem is that the Saints disagree until proven otherwise. And given their repeated tendency to trade up using the other picks, our roster is soooooo thin because we can't afford free agents and we aren't picking enough players. Picking a QB we won't give a real shot vs. a backup lineman we might need to play to not have the bottom fall out, and makes excuses because of, just doesn't make any sense until I can see a pattern of development.

 

[Brandon13]

He ain't it.

 

[St.Fury]

Listened to Greg Cosell’s opinion of him on a podcast yesterday. He basically hates him.

In that case, I'll take a flyer on him in the mid-late rounds.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Please no. Not a fan.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Cosell isn't either and he's got a good track record with analyzing college QB's.

I assume you were speaking more in line w/ Ewers than the rest of the QBs he listed. W/ it becoming known that the Saints have called the Titans about the #1 pick and Ward being the only QB they have a 1st round grade on, your comment peeked my interest and I was curious to know if Cosell felt that way about him.

“I think Ward’s worthy of a No. 1 pick in the draft. That’s my opinion based on film study. I think he’s worthy of that,” Cosell said.

 

[StudioSaint]

I assume you were speaking more in line w/ Ewers than the rest of the QBs he listed. W/ it becoming known that the Saints have called the Titans about the #1 pick and Ward being the only QB they have a 1st round grade on, your comment peeked my interest and I was curious to know if Cosell felt that way about him.

“I think Ward’s worthy of a No. 1 pick in the draft. That’s my opinion based on film study. I think he’s worthy of that,” Cosell said.

Cossel also said that Ward and Sanders got sacked a lot and that probably wouldn't change in the pros and might get worse. He talked about how college QB's who have big wide clean pockets in college struggle a lot with the tight high traffic pockets in the NFL and that's why some really good QB's at the college level don't work out at the NFL level. He said that if you're getting sacked at a high rate in college, it's not going to get any better in the NFL. Paraphrasing, not a direct quote.

The comment I replied to was someone saying that weren't a fan of Ewers, Ward and Sanders. I heard everything Cossell said. He didn't seem as enamored with Ward or Sanders as the general hype about them is. He pointed out their skills, but he also expressed concerns that their sacks would follow them to the NFL.

I didn't pay attention to what he said about Ewers.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Ugggh, you know that hearing this makes my head explode! McCord, McCord and McCord. Hoping that these are smoke screens.

I like him but there's a great chance he'll just be a backup. He processes slow post-snap by NFL standards and never looks off safeties and drop-back linebackers. Everything else looks there. In truth, if I had to compare him to anyone, I would say a near spitting image Jake Browning (who I think could perhaps be a starter in this league if he wasn't backing up Burrow).

The only way to cure those two things are sideline studying and forcing a habit to look off in practices even if you shouldn't. Think running 100 plays a day and simply forcing yourself to look off every single time. JD5 has a super interesting training scenario for game speed processing post snap. He uses a Quest Meta 3 with game film and speeds up the plays to 1.5x speed. What's really interesting is he started doing that back at LSU which is when he took a massive step forward in his game. How he uses VR may have played a significant role in it. SideNote : He doesn't just use VR. But on any screen he speeds up the play to 1.5x speed.

I just find the VR concept incredible. QB's could have a significant study advantage if they can find a way to get an indestructible micro camera on the front of their helmets for reviewing game/practice film.

Anyway, back to point. If he sat a year studying hard and adjusting to the NFL speed and as such, his processing speed while learning to look off zone coverage, he could be really good and a great development QB over Rattler.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Cossel also said that Ward and Sanders got sacked a lot and that probably wouldn't change in the pros and might get worse. He talked about how college QB's who have big wide clean pockets in college struggle a lot with the tight high traffic pockets in the NFL and that's why some really good QB's at the college level don't work out at the NFL level. He said that if you're getting sacked at a high rate in college, it's not going to get any better in the NFL. Paraphrasing, not a direct quote.

The comment I replied to was someone saying that weren't a fan of Ewers, Ward and Sanders. I heard everything Cossell said. He didn't seem as enamored with Ward or Sanders as the general hype about them is. He pointed out their skills, but he also expressed concerns that their sacks would follow them to the NFL.

I didn't pay attention to what he said about Ewers.

Touché so he offered contradictory takes. One that Ward was worthy of the #1 pick but also that his warts may never improve.

 

[j4m2b]

Jt o sullivan
Doug nussmeir
Danny weurfel
Adrain mcpherson
Garret grayson
Tommy johnson
Jake haener
Spencer rattler

I left out marc bulger because he proved to be a stater. But you can insert ewers anywhere in the list above.

 

[TenTwo]

Guess it's never too early to start gathering intel on Arch

 

[texasjefe]

I could write volumes about Quinn, but it comes down to this, even if he's fully healthy.

He's not mobile. He's too slow to process. He's passive. He has arm talent but was poor with accuracy throwing deep balls, which he threw alot. He entered last season as a 1st round talent, and now just about everyone would slot him at 3rd round at the earliest.

Quinn does not have anything close to Rattler's mobility and you gotta have that in the pro game to cope with the blitz packages or OLine breakdowns and/or, to be an intended runner on a play. Quinn is too slow to process all that and will get eaten up by DC's. To me, as a pro player, he seems alot like our boy Derek Carr. (Derek throws good deep balls, but is incapable of going through route progressions. He's even uncomfortable throwing checkdowns.)

 

[syracuse saint]

I like him but there's a great chance he'll just be a backup. He processes slow post-snap by NFL standards and never looks off safeties and drop-back linebackers. Everything else looks there. In truth, if I had to compare him to anyone, I would say a near spitting image Jake Browning (who I think could perhaps be a starter in this league if he wasn't backing up Burrow).

The only way to cure those two things are sideline studying and forcing a habit to look off in practices even if you shouldn't. Think running 100 plays a day and simply forcing yourself to look off every single time. JD5 has a super interesting training scenario for game speed processing post snap. He uses a Quest Meta 3 with game film and speeds up the plays to 1.5x speed. What's really interesting is he started doing that back at LSU which is when he took a massive step forward in his game. How he uses VR may have played a significant role in it. SideNote : He doesn't just use VR. But on any screen he speeds up the play to 1.5x speed.

I just find the VR concept incredible. QB's could have a significant study advantage if they can find a way to get an indestructible micro camera on the front of their helmets for reviewing game/practice film.

Anyway, back to point. If he sat a year studying hard and adjusting to the NFL speed and as such, his processing speed while learning to look off zone coverage, he could be really good and a great development QB over Rattler.

I respectfully disagree about your McCord assessment and provide 2 reasons as to why:

1) Mccord rarely had enough time to sit in the pocket at Syracuse and go through progressions. The Syracuse O-line wasn't good enough to give him that kind of time. When McCord had success, he had to make pre-snap reads or create one on one match ups for his receivers by moving the safety. 2) He threw for 4,750 yards and 34 TDs (most in NCAA) at Syracuse, with Syracuse level talent in the ACC. 65% accuracy. His #1 RB rushed for over 1000 yards, so there was some offensive balance. So, I'll answer your statement with a question. How does McCord throw for that many yards and TDs if he processes slowly? And we all know it wasn't with his mobility. The answer is pre-snap and quick processing skills.

2024 highlights. They don't include his 500 yards, 4 TD bowl game highlights.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

I respectfully disagree about your McCord assessment and provide 2 reasons as to why:

1) Mccord rarely had enough time to sit in the pocket at Syracuse and go through progressions. The Syracuse O-line wasn't good enough to give him that kind of time. When McCord had success, he had to make pre-snap reads or create one on one match ups for his receivers by moving the safety. 2) He threw for 4,750 yards and 34 TDs (most in NCAA) at Syracuse, with Syracuse level talent in the ACC. 65% accuracy. His #1 RB rushed for over 1000 yards, so there was some offensive balance. So, I'll answer your statement with a question. How does McCord throw for that many yards and TDs if he processes slowly? And we all know it wasn't with his mobility. The answer is pre-snap and quick processing skills.

ooooo. Good convo and a better question. I didn't watch every game he played. Only 3? I think it was 3. I recall being mesmerized how much he staired down his receiver. He quite literally has a massive habit staring down his receiver. I haven't looked, but from what I recall, I'm nearly willing to bet if you pull up any 3+ minute highlight from 2024 you'll see him immediately begin staring down receivers as soon as the ball is in his hand at least 50% of the time.

Another thing that stuck out to me, is the few times he didn't stair down his receiver he spent quite a bit of time looking at each receiver. Think in terms of 2 foot taps a second, and maybe my memory is a bit off but it seemed like he would often spend about 2 foot taps on each option, where as if you were to apply the same time to someone like Brady or Brees (I know, the greats, but they make fantastic comparisons here) they spent no more then 1 foot tap, sometimes not even a full foot tap to go from read 2 to 3.

The way he staired down receivers makes me think either his WR talent was incredibly superior OR he was extremely good reading pre-snap. Maybe a bit of both. But my god the way he staired down those receivers, I was utterly floored how defenses weren't getting into position to rob him.

 

[syracuse saint]

ooooo. Good convo and a better question. I didn't watch every game he played. Only 3? I think it was 3. I recall being mesmerized how much he staired down his receiver. He quite literally has a massive habit staring down his receiver. I haven't looked, but from what I recall, I'm nearly willing to bet if you pull up any 3+ minute highlight from 2024 you'll see him immediately begin staring down receivers as soon as the ball is in his hand at least 50% of the time.

Another thing that stuck out to me, is the few times he didn't stair down his receiver he spent quite a bit of time looking at each receiver. Think in terms of 2 foot taps a second, and maybe my memory is a bit off but it seemed like he would often spend about 2 foot taps on each option, where as if you were to apply the same time to someone like Brady or Brees (I know, the greats, but they make fantastic comparisons here) they spent no more then 1 foot tap, sometimes not even a full foot tap to go from read 2 to 3.

The way he staired down receivers makes me think either his WR talent was incredibly superior OR he was extremely good reading pre-snap. Maybe a bit of both. But my god the way he staired down those receivers, I was utterly floored how defenses weren't getting into position to rob him.

Watch 15 minute video I posted