Sad to say, calling all draft gurus (2 Viewers)

[longtime lurker]

This is the year for Loomis to trade down, if it’s an available option and build up picks. It’s harder to miss when you have more tries.

We have so many needs that going BPA on each pick should be the way.

 

[BreesusSaves]

Speaking of the 2022 QB class, I know we hate Loomis and DA, but according to Underhill if Payton had still been the coach here in 2022, he would have drafted Kenny Pickett.

Payton was also the HC for the Davenport and Turner picks

 

[AARPSaint]

Payton was also the HC for the Davenport and Turner picks

Perfect example. Davenport was the best remaking edge rusher a weak group.

 

[Saint KayBee]

Speaking of the 2022 QB class, I know we hate Loomis and DA, but according to Underhill if Payton had still been the coach here in 2022, he would have drafted Kenny Pickett.

Sean has a thing for Kennys

 

[Saint KayBee]

Honestly I’d be fine with drafting Jeanty high if the other prospects around his draft projection are at positions the Saints have already solidified

I’m once bitten, twice shy too many times over with this team and first round defensive ends. I’d rather draft any and every other position high. DEs can wait.

 

[St4ever]

You know this team isn’t tanking. We might be talking about trading multiple first round picks to get a QB in 2026. If we have a shot I think we need to take it.

QB is a crapshoot every year.

We won’t need to tank. We will suck really bad next year.

 

[SAINT BIGAL]

BPA is the direction I think they would pursue. And would almost certainly fill a void.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Fat DT, pass rusher, or offensive PLAYMAKER either at WR or RB (McMillan or Jeanty, specifically, otherwise DL).

Deone Walker.

 

[Snakehead]

I really haven't started looking, but I will now. I'll also go with a few assumptions.

1. We won't tank. It's not how this FO operates, but the injuries and perceived team culture due to injuries/coaching that we'll end up with a fairly high pick, let's assume top 10.
2. This is not the draft to take a QB, especially when there are so many other needs.
3. LT, C, RT, Slot CB, MLB, WLB and 1 DT (Bresee) are set. QB is not set long term, but we have a veteran signed for a couple more seasons and a couple guys to observe/develop to see if they are long term answers.
4. Olave's concussions are a big issue.
5. The team does not have quality depth.
6. They got bullied in a few guys last year and all but week 1 and 2 of this season.
7. No size on the interior DL.


WR Tet McMilan is an absolute stud and he has size, something our current WRs do not have. He'd step right in and be the X, pushing Olave to a supporting role and Shaheed to a playmaker role assuming he resigns.

Jeanty is also an absolute stud. Both him and Tet would be hard to pass up considering the state of our offensive weapons. I'm not going to assume AK's future with the team, but Jeanty with AK/KM or Jeanty with KM would be a formidble backfield for KK's system. KK's system doesn't require a stud RB since that system has been proven to use all talent levels at RB to be effective. However, Jeanty is a tone setter. He'd provide an identity.

No QB in the 1st or at all in the draft. Use Houston as an example, build the offensive line, defense and skill positions first, then get the QB on a rookie deal. This works considering we have temporary options at QB and time to build around them.

The interior O-line can be addressed in the 2nd or later. Our 2nd round pick will be a high 2nd, so that is valuable and there is usually a lot of talent available there.

DT Deone Walker, Kentucky. This is what needs to be addressed. Getting bullied in the NFL is embarrasing. Putting a big run stuffer/mauler on the D-line next to Bresee will help Bresee with what he does best.

A weapon at TE. Moreau has shown that he is servicable, but he's not a playmaker. Mason Taylor out of LSU would be a nice addition to the TE room especially if we plan on going with a lot of 2 TE sets. I'd look for him outside of the 1st round.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

We won’t need to tank. We will suck really bad next year.

Yeah I laughed at that one. We’re already doing it, just funnier as we’re not trying to do it.

 

[Saint Greg]

We won’t need to tank. We will suck really bad next year.

It’s easy to say that but I don’t think that’s true. If everything stays the same and we’re healthy we’re at least a middle of the pack team. It has to be something like this where 8 of 11 offensive starters are out for us to suck.

 

[St. Widge]

Yeah I laughed at that one. We’re already doing it, just funnier as we’re not trying to do it.

This year sure they suck with all the injuries.

But next year? I don't know man, when this team was healthy it wasn't a bad football team. It's poorly coached, has no depth, and DA needs to go, but unless they tear it apart, and that's not going to happen with this organization, they are going to put a competitive team on the field next year.

 

[DSnfla]

Speaking of the 2022 QB class, I know we hate Loomis and DA, but according to Underhill if Payton had still been the coach here in 2022, he would have drafted Kenny Pickett.

I like Nick and Trip but they have been pretty wrong about a lot lately, Young, Miller,Penning. So I'm taking everything they say these days with a grain of salt

 

[SweetT]

 

[St. Widge]

I like Nick and Trip but they have been pretty wrong about a lot lately, Young, Miller,Penning. So I'm taking everything they say these days with a grain of salt

I know you don't like Nick and Trip. But I have no idea why. You have a tendency to like or not like media and players and won't change your mind in the face of evidence otherwise. So believe what you want.

But what have they been wrong about with Young, Miller, and Penning? I'm sure you will claim they said Miller and Young would be amazing and that Penning would be terrible but they didn't say that.

Beyond that, being wrong about player evaluations has nothing to do with having inside information about who Payton would have picked.