Saints at the top of Davante Adams’ wish list [Raiders trade Adams to Jets for conditional 3rd ; Jets paying Adams’ entire remaining salary] (2 Viewers)

[Elvis]

Again, they picked up a starting caliber center this week, and that hopefully will right the ship to some degree. He's not at McCoy's level, but he's a guy who is a competent center and this allows the rest of the line to play the way they were before McCoy went down.

The weaknesses are being addressed, but we really do need another WR2 to take some attention off of Olave.

Starting caliber centers are not sitting on teams practice squads. His starting experience is on terrible Broncos and Jets teams and he was never on a team that was better than 7 wins in his 7 years as a pro. And he's wasn't good enough to be on any teams roster before we got desperate. We are scraping the barrel.

 

[Rexman100]

2 weeks ago everyone had us on the top of their super bowl potential list and there was people saying we are the best in the NFC.

We have among the best point diff in all of football.

How are we not in contention?

We are tied for first in the division.


Y'alls self-doubt about the team is weird.



Go get DA and win the super bowl.

because when its time to close out the game, we get hesitant and choke. You see Cinci this past weekend? it felt like the Saints. By letting all the weight of the game fall on their kicker. We have to prove that we can take one score games. If we had game 1 and 2's roster, then we continue to blow teams out. But we dont and have been exposed, so now we have to win like the rest of the NFL, close one score games. Getting DA would make this roster look closer to GM1 than without him.

 

[St. Widge]

The current offensive line isnt good enoguh, but when we get full strength we DEFINITELY are a Superbowl contender. 100%

I'd love to think that we will get healthy. But I think the injuries are piling up and at some point it's just too many to expect "next man up" to work. Kubiak has done a masterful job of scheming around the lack of talent on the OL and the injuries, but there is a limit to what even he can do. And now we have injuries at LB and DE that we really can't afford. I mean Hill is out with broken ribs and Kamara is playing with broken ribs. We are one good hit away from having Jamal Williams getting 20 plus touches per game behind a patch work OL which isn't good. So, if we get healthy sure we can contend for the NFC. I'm just not sure we are ever going to be "healthy" this season.

And we have 3 games in 10 days coming up with the injury list we have now. Most of those guys are unlikely to come off the injury list in the next 10 days so things could really turn bad over the next 3 games due to injuries. Hopefully not, but it is possible. And coming back to contend from 2-5 would be really difficult even with Adams.

So, I'm just not sure what Adams can do to make up for that given that he is unlikely to be traded fast enough to get up to speed to play in the next 2 games. Especially since he may have an injured hamstring. (Could be fake excuse to keep him off the field.) But, if they can get him for a decent price then I'm fine with finding out. I just don't want to see this team giving up a 2nd round pick and a ton of future cap space that we could use at other positions, if it turns out that we never get healthy enough for Adams to make a difference.

And frankly, if we get healthy I think we have enough to make a run without Adams and I'd rather keep the draft assets to get a weapon in the draft at a cheaper price so we can use some cap space to get some good OL and some pass rushers in free agency.

But hey, I'm just a fan and I hope I'm wrong. If they do trade for Adams I hope he transforms the offense and they go on a run.

 

[Rexman100]

Starting caliber centers are not sitting on teams practice squads. His starting experience is on terrible Broncos and Jets teams and he was never on a team that was better than 7 wins in his 7 years as a pro. And he's wasn't good enough to be on any teams roster before we got desperate. We are scraping the barrel.

nah, i get what you're saying but you're looking at it wrong. The reason McGovern was on a practice squad is because they are older vets that you cant depend on starting 17 games. But these type guys are good enough to play great still, but only for a few games, just not the whole season. If what you're saying is true, then they'd be insurance salesmen.

 

[St. Widge]

And how do you think the team can try and break the spell??? It’s called making an upgrade.
I’m sure if your car isn’t getting maximum fuel economy, then you just “keep doing what you’re doing”.

You sure have a lot of confidence that [Dennis Allen] can get better in close games.

 

[DaveXA]

Starting caliber centers are not sitting on teams practice squads. His starting experience is on terrible Broncos and Jets teams and he was never on a team that was better than 7 wins in his 7 years as a pro. And he's wasn't good enough to be on any teams roster before we got desperate. We are scraping the barrel.

Well yeah, you think you can do better? Who do you suggest then? And how would we obtain him?

 

[SweetT]

You sure have a lot of confidence that [Dennis Allen] can get better in close games.

I’m just trying to get him a better shot at at.

 

[Elvis]

Well yeah, you think you can do better? Who do you suggest then? And how would we obtain him?

That wasn’t really the premise. The premise is that we shouldn’t be throwing future assets away for one season rentals at positions that aren’t the reason we are in trouble in the first place. Adams doesn’t solve our problems. As thin as we are, the WR group is actually our strongest group on offense right now.

 

[gavinj]

I didn't say Adams is not gonna help the Saints. I said that there are much more glaring needs to be addressed than a WR.

Nah, if there’s a player this good who wants to come play for the Saints, you do it. Saints are not a top destination for FAs regardless of what some think. This player is better than Olave and Shaheed. If a trade is what it takes to get him then that’s what it takes.

 

[St. Widge]

I’m just trying to get him a better shot at at.

Fair enough. I just think a healthy OL, an elite pass rusher, and/or the ability to learn how to manage end game situations is what he needs, not a WR. But, maybe Adams could make the difference in some situations.

 

[Elvis]

nah, i get what you're saying but you're looking at it wrong. The reason McGovern was on a practice squad is because they are older vets that you cant depend on starting 17 games. But these type guys are good enough to play great still, but only for a few games, just not the whole season. If what you're saying is true, then they'd be insurance salesmen.

It’s not like they are old, both are 31. McGovern hasn’t missed games really. They just aren’t very good.

 

[St. Widge]

Nah, if there’s a player this good who wants to come play for the Saints, you do it. Saints are not a top destination for FAs regardless of what some think. This player is better than Olave and Shaheed. If a trade is what it takes to get him then that’s what it takes.

If all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail. What I mean is that just because Adams is the only great player available in trade doesn't mean he's the solution to our problems.

 

[DaveXA]

That wasn’t really the premise. The premise is that we shouldn’t be throwing future assets away for one season rentals at positions that aren’t the reason we are in trouble in the first place. Adams doesn’t solve our problems. As thin as we are, the WR group is actually our strongest group on offense right now.

I strongly disagree. There's a big dropoff after Shaheed. If either of him or Olave get hurt, the team will be seriously crippled. You can't have too many good wrs.

That said, there's a ceiling on what I'd do to get Adams, and 2nd round pick is a bit too much. I could live with a 3rd rounder tho.

And yes, Adams solves a big problem at WR because Shaheed isn't consistent enough to pull attention away from Olave. Adams absolutely can and will do that.

For all the crap the FO gets for not doing anything, now people are complaining when they actually do try. I don't get it.

 

[DaveXA]

It’s not like they are old, both are 31. McGovern hasn’t missed games really. They just aren’t very good.

He doesn't have to be very good, just competent. If he does his job, the rest of the line will be fine if they can stay healthy.

 

[soggymoss84]

Well, that takes us out of it. Should have known they didn’t want to take on money being they have the poorest owner in the league