Saints expected to be very interested in former Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy (206 Viewers)

[Saint Greg]

Yeah, agree and why I said "maybe". Dak's contract is scary and Jones will always put a finger on the scale of football decisions. I think coaching candidates may look at that job as flawed.

Yeah anyone who takes that Dallas job has to love Dak. He’s there for at least two more years. Maybe more if they do any restructuring.

And they have to be cool with Jerry getting in front of a camera after every game and running his mouth on the radio every week.

 

[Elvis]

Based only his QBR Derek Carr is actually underrated. Not saying it’s coming from
you, but I don’t understand the animosity towards Carr.

I really don't have any animosity toward him and if we had a team that was a good match for what he does well I don't think we'd be having this discussion. But I see him as a QB that needs just about everything to be perfect in front of him and that's not who the 2025 Saints are going to be. So why pay him $50 million or kick cap $ down the road for a poor fit? Anyway, this has devolved into some way off topic stuff.

Back on topic. Mike McCarthy would be my #2 choice of people who are being considered if his name joins the list. As of right now that part is speculation.

 

[WhoDat6278]

How would this statement not apply to whomever we hire?

I think it's a misnomer the belief that our situation will scare coaches off; McCarthy would be a good hire because he has a proven track record and can right this ship.

My only concern or request is that I think, like others, we want a younger coach who will be here for a while, but a good coach is a good coach, and getting a proven one will always be a better decision than a young up-and-coming one.

Not sure what your point is because it seems like you’re agreeing with me. I haven’t said anything about coaches being scared off and stated he’s a good coach that I wouldn’t complain about hiring.

The statement applies to McCarthy (and not Brady or Glenn) because he’s 61 and has been a HC for a long time. What is his threshold for pain, because we’re at least 2 good drafts away from having a roster capable of getting to the playoffs. If he’s willing to spend the next few years going through a rebuild then great.

If he comes in and makes decisions around the idea that we can win immediately with Carr, that’s an issue because we evidently don’t have the roster for that to happen.

 

[Elvis]

Yeah, that contract is ridiculous. Dak's alright, but how did Jerry think that was a god idea. Maybe second worse QB contract behind Deshawn Watson. Trevor Lawrence's is insane too and I don't understand why they paid him that. But at least he's only 25 and has time to grow into it.

 

[longtime lurker]

 

[kennydfresh]

If I'm the Saints you invite him for an interview and you bring your checkbook. You make it happen, Loomis!

 

[Broad St. Saint]

But they’re not a mirror image, at all. Mike McCarthy had a player mutanty in Green Bay which cost him his job. Sean never had. Mike McCarthy inherited a very talented team in Dallas and under achieved. Sean inherited one of the worst talented teams in the NFL (Broncos) and over achieved, with a rookie QB.

Once both of these coaches lost their franchise QB (for different reasons, one retired and the other got McCarthy fired) they have been polar opposites, if anything

I'm warming to the idea of McCarthy.

Re: "Mike McCarthy had a player mutanty in Green Bay which cost him his job. Sean never had." However, Sean led the NFL league office to mutiny against him! Maybe the fallout of Vicodin-allleged Bountygate was the No-Call! The guy in the middle has to deal with those on either side.

I agree with you that lately (the past two seasons), Payton has done more with less than McCarthy. But it required him going to a team where the Wal*Mart heirs have his back against the league and its refs. Meanwhile, I wonder whether Jerry Jones is as deferred to by the league office, given that his main worth is the team, while for other owners, the team may be just part of a diversified portfolio (Waltons/Broncos/Wal*Mart; Kraft/Gillette/Patriots; Blank/Home Depot/Falcons).

 

[Devildog]

Meh.

I mean, there are certainly worse coaches you can get, but I want a young coach that can grow with the team.

 

[SystemShock]

Coach with a .608 career win percentage that made the playoffs in 2/3 seasons coached, and that also won a Super Bowl?

I’m in.

... except that, no HC in the NFL that has won SBs with 2 different teams.

 

[saintsmarchin]

 

[StudioSaint]

... except that, no HC in the NFL that has won SBs with 2 different teams.

Well, that settles it. Sean Payton will never win another Super Bowl. What the hell were the Broncos thinking when they hired him?

No team should ever hire a head coach that's already won a Super Bowl with another team.

 

[DSnfla]

That part I do agree with...which is why we are not as bad of a destination for a coach as reported...
The larger problem is can Loomis really survive what is about to become some very lean years?
Whomever eventually fills the power vacuum will want to bring in their own hire--whether it's 1, 2 or 3 years from now...

Isn't that what everyone said about Denver when SP took over??

 

[Filaphill]

 

[SystemShock]

Well, that settles it. Sean Payton will never win another Super Bowl. What the hell were the Broncos thinking when they hired him?

No team should ever hire a head coach that's already won a Super Bowl with another team.

Well, in 58 years, so far it's worked for no one.

 

[DSnfla]

Mike Mccarthy coming here would be like Jacksonville hiring Doug Pederson. Mccarthy would mean keeping Carr and trying to compete like we have the last few years but fail. Look at what advances in the playoffs these days, young athletic QB's with a younger innovative OC. Mccarthy's time has come and gone in the NFL.

Yeah like the #1 seeded Lions