Saints expected to be very interested in former Packers/Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy [McCarthy will interview early next week] (32 Viewers)

[nakadish]

Mick will go with the lazy choice, jut like before.

I'll take a lazy 12-5 over 5-12 any day.

 

[St. Widge]

Mick will go with the lazy choice, jut like before.

Out of curiosity who do you think would not be a lazy hire? And who do you think is a better head coach than McCarthy?

 

[St. Widge]

The Bears ownership has been a training wreck since Virginia McCaskey passed away 21 years ago. Who in their right minds would want to go there?

Ben Johnson might and McCarty is going to interview with them so he is at least considering it. I don't think McCarty goes there, but there are some reasons to go there including having a potential franchise QB.

Also, IIRC, McCarty has turned down the Saints HC job before. Or am I remembering wrong?

 

[WilliamBrees]

From the Mike McCarty Wiki page. How quickly people forget his time as our OC. It was Haslett that sucked.

Did we fire him after a year we won five in a row? Maybe we don't go 3-13 in 05 if he stayed. Yes I know but this is eye opening. They were playing well those five weeks.

 

[WilliamBrees]

Mike Mccarthy coming here would be like Jacksonville hiring Doug Pederson. Mccarthy would mean keeping Carr and trying to compete like we have the last few years but fail. Look at what advances in the playoffs these days, young athletic QB's with a younger innovative OC. Mccarthy's time has come and gone in the NFL.

Drake, Nix, McCarthy are going to change that. Then there's Arch. Young athletic QBs are winning now because there is no elite pocket passer outside Mahomes and Burrow or they're on bad teams. And Carr is a top five pocket passer as well. He has a bad SC.

 

[St.Fury]

Mick will go with the lazy choice, jut like before.

Please explain how this would be a lazy hire? He’s not currently part of our coaching staff, and they’re actually conducting interviews.


Also, Mike McCarthy is 288-174 as a HC. In 18 years as a HC, he only has 5 losing seasons. The chances of him turning this franchise around are pretty good.

 

[WilliamBrees]

If McCarthy is hired than I believe Carr may stay.

Carrs going to stay anyway. And McCarthy will certainly get weapons for him.

 

[WilliamBrees]

This. And for those who think McCarthy is not young, that's true, but he is literally the same age (61) as Sean Payton. With more playoff appearances and playoff games, but the exact same .500 record in the playoffs.

Tough to win on the road against the NFC West in the playoffs. Packers and Saints both dealt with it.
NO
@Sea-L
@SF- L
@Sea-L
Other playoff losses post 09- @Min, LAR, Min, TB...

GB
@Ari-L
@SF-L
@Sea-L
@Ari-L
Other playoff losses-NYG, NYG, SF, @atl

Both McCarthy/Rodgers and Payton/Brees lost 80% and 75% of their road playoff games against the NFC West. Counting Bears 06 would be 60% for Saints.

That really irritates me because experts were building it up for years about defensive teams fielding explosive offenses and us and the Packers stood there and let Seattle and SF destroy our momentum.

 

[Centmssaint1]

Tough to win on the road against the NFC West in the playoffs. Packers and Saints both dealt with it.
NO
@Sea-L
@SF- L
@Sea-L
Other playoff losses post 09- @Min, LAR, Min, TB...

GB
@Ari-L
@SF-L
@Sea-L
@Ari-L
Other playoff losses-NYG, NYG, SF, @atl

Both McCarthy/Rodgers and Payton/Brees lost 80% and 75% of their road playoff games against the NFC West. Counting Bears 06 would be 60% for Saints.

That really irritates me because experts were building it up for years about defensive teams fielding explosive offenses and us and the Packers stood there and let Seattle and SF destroy our momentum.

Each time the Saints lost to Seattle and SF, they had no running game to lean on. In 2010 in the WC game at Seattle, only Reggie Bush was available. In 2011, I believe that’s the year the 49ers deliberately took out the PT Cruiser with the shot to the head on the goal line on the opening drive. The refs of course didn’t call a foul on the defense. The Saints fumbled the ball. No running game after that because you only had Sproles. The 9ers were all over him. In 2013, the Saints were injured going into the Divisional game in Seattle. I think that’s the year NOBODY was beating Seattle. They crushed the Denver Mannings in the Super Bowl.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Jeff Duncan said it. And I believe nothing Duncan ever says.

he said he wanted to come back and was told no, or that SP was interested in coming back?

 

[NatureBoy]

I think it's McCarthy's job if he wants it. And I think he will, because it's the complete opposite of what he had in Dallas. In D he had a meddling owner that had a grip on player personnel. Here he would have an owner that spends $ and GM that will pretty much give him what he wants and plenty of patience to get it done. I'll be surprised if he's not our next HC

I agree. This job would provide the opportunity that he'd never get with Jerry Jones. Also, Loomis has to get this right. I don't think he can have another failure. He knows what he's getting in Mike McCarthy. With any of the young guys who haven't been a HC yet, it's more of a crap shoot. I can't see Gayle accepting another change 2.5 years from now because the hot prospect didn't pan out.

 

[ThibodauxSaint]

Mick will go with the lazy choice, jut like before.

I wouldn't say the "lazy" choice. Its the "safe" choice. If your goal is to bring stability back to the franchise you don't roll the dice with a coordinator with no head coaching experience. You go with the guy with the proven track record who's career is almost a mirror image of the guy who had the greatest run in this franchises' history. Its a no brainer. I think its McCarthy job if he wants it.

 

[los226]

The only reason the Cowboys won that many games under McCarthy is because of Dan Quinn and his defense. The offense has been terrible outside of a few games where they beat up on sub .500 teams. That’s supposed to be McCarthy’s calling card. That’s a red flag IMO.

 

[St. Geezy]

I think the familiarity with ML and Mueller along with knowing that he'll pretty much have full reign here will trump the Bears job . Plus playing outdoors in the cold , no offensive HC wants that.

Who would have thunk, 20+ years ago, that we would be here in the year 2025, still dealing with the possibility of the likes of Mickey Loomis, Randy Mueller, and now potentially Mike McCarthy working for the black and gold.

What a crazy league.

What’s next, Jim Haslett for the defensive coordinator position?

 

[limeyjohn]

The only reason the Cowboys won that many games under McCarthy is because of Dan Quinn and his defense. The offense has been terrible outside of a few games where they beat up on sub .500 teams. That’s supposed to be McCarthy’s calling card. That’s a red flag IMO.

Not seeing that sorry, as recently as 2023 they were first in points scored in the NFL