Saints expected to be very interested in former Packers/Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy [McCarthy will interview early next week] (68 Viewers)

[sfidc3]

Sean had three losing seasons in a row with prime Drew Brees…that doesn’t mean he’s diminished as a coach. Lulls happen. It’s very hard to sustain winning; teams go through phases. It’s a good thing we didn’t fire Sean after his second or third losing season in a row.

To me, McCarthy has more than demonstrated that he can win consistently enough.

Yup, the guys that have proven they can take a team far deserve patience....

I'm down with Glenn, Brady or McCarthy, in no particular order. Brady is probably my first choice tho.

I fell the same at this point....

 

[MikeyF]

In what way is Chicago a better choice for coaching prospects than New Orleans. (Other than NOLA being the equivalent of a third world country)

I'm guessing you don't live in NOLA with that comment.

 

[No2DC]

Even Dak weight in:
Quarterback Dak Prescott also weighed in on McCarthy's exit, telling DLLS Sports in a text message Monday night that he was "bummed, because we built some things. But I guess they couldn't reach an agreement. SMH."

I'm not saying it isn't true, but most players are publically diplomatic when their coach gets fired. It is usually not until they are retired that we find out their true feelings.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Mostly Caleb Williams and they have added some young talent because they have a lot of draft picks from the guys they traded away. Plus, yes, Chicago is a nice city.

On the flip side, Williams is kind of a strange guy and Chicago is where football coaches go to fail. In fact I thought it was funny that Chicago fans thought it was impressive that they flew McCarty in on a private jet since they normally bring head coach candidates in with coach tickets on regular commercial flights.

a lot of coaches like to come in and have their own QB's, unless you have an esablished QB who is already winning/ or established as talented.
Its tough to come in with a QB who was drafted the year before you that you have to stick with if he is failing because the team put a #1 into him..
Ask the Panthers coach how thats working out for him...

 

[St. Widge]

a lot of coaches like to come in and have their own QB's, unless you have an esablished QB who is already winning/ or established as talented.
Its tough to come in with a QB who was drafted the year before you that you have to stick with if he is failing because the team put a #1 into him..
Ask the Panthers coach how thats working out for him...

True. But Williams did show some promise and often times those new coaches are in a position to draft a young QB high their first year. That's not the case here both because we pick and #9 and because their may not be a QB in the draft worth a high round pick.

We more or less have the same situation Payton got in Denver with a vet starter you probably have to start for a year before you can get rid of him. But, it's hard to know what QB will look like in the next draft or if we will be in position to draft one.

 

[NatureBoy]

I like the idea of McCarthy. I'm not saying he will be the next Andy Reid, but I was curious what Andy's record looked like before going to KC vs Mike's record as a HC so far.

Reid was 130-93 in regular season games. Thats a 58.3 winning percentage. He was 10-9 in the playoffs (0-1 in the Super Bowl).

McCarthy was 174-112 in regular season games. Thats a 60.8 winning percentage. He was 11-11 in the playoffs (1-0 in the Super Bowl).

 

[Saint Greg]

Worth watching Matt Flynn join TBob and Hester to talk about McCarthy here.

 

[texasjefe]

I can only wonder what Alex Loomis, Dallas' Director of Pro Scouting since 2017, has to say to his Dad about McCarthy.

Those of you that have McCarthy as your first choice, that could be a factor in his candidacy with the Saints.

 

[SWJJ]

Worth watching Matt Flynn join TBob and Hester to talk about McCarthy here.

great watch!

 

[boutte]

I'm guessing you don't live in NOLA with that comment.

That would be incorrect. The incident on Bourbon being the most recent and prominent example. The state of the roads, the mayor, education and on and on. Even compared to Jefferson Parish it's sheet show. I spent 20 years living in other cities in Cali, Nevada and New Mexico. The only place that comes close was Tucson.

I was a born and raised New Orleans and I love the city but I can see it for what it is and it makes me sad. New Orleans is my home and my whole family lives in this area.

 

[strandedsaint]

In what way is Chicago a better choice for coaching prospects than New Orleans. (Other than NOLA being the equivalent of a third world country)

3rd world country??????????? He's not coaching in the hood......Our superdome is amazing and our team facilities are way above average! Plus the WHODAT NATION is second to NOBODY
you should be suspended for those comments

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

Did not know that Loomis had a son who was the director of pro scouting in Dallas. Interesting fact.

 

[Saint Jack]

In what way is Chicago a better choice for coaching prospects than New Orleans. (Other than NOLA being the equivalent of a third world country)

Third world countries do not have two pro teams.
And NOLA is the only major city from here to Atlanta.

 

[No2DC]

Okay. Take a look at the 2022 coaching class, since that involves the Saints, and for some added perspective. 6 of the 10 coaches have been fired. Daboll is arguably on the hotseat. O'Connell, Bowles, and McDaniel are having some success and could be setting up for long tenures with their respective teams. I believe out of the 10 coaches, they combine for 3 wins in the postseason so far (1 each; Bowles, Daboll, and Pederson).

You seem to be seriously dismissing just how hard it is for coaches to succeed in the NFL.

I'm not, but I would rather gamble on the next great young (I use young loosely) than go with a guy who knows where the ceiling is. At this point, I basically expect Mick to go with a safe route because he's too old to roll the dice on an unknown. Payton was an unknown and turned out to be the greatest coach in Saints history; that's the direction I would rather go because these next couple of years will not be ideal in terms of the cap or talent. McCarthy is like Marty Schotehemier with a ring. He doesn't have losing seasons, but the probability of winning it all again is virtually zero. It's like no one on the board wants to be the best anymore; we want to be mid-tier. There was time when we had a top 5 coach and QB and now we just want to get by. Sad. if we fail with a first-time coach, so what at least we'll have a high draft pick.

 

[No2DC]

Superbowl appearances: Tomlin 2, Sean and McCarthy 1. He's not better than Tomlin, look at number of losing seasons. Payton and McCarthy have the same number of losing seasons (4) and Tomlin has none. I will always give Payton the edge for what he did for us but I can acknowledge they on a similar tier. It's the lazy choice but Loomis is scared to rock the boat , so I will not be surprised if he went that route.

edit, correction: Payton has five vs McCarthy's four losing seasons. It still doesn't change my view of who is better between the two.