Saints fight to avoid disclosing emails in Catholic abuse crisis (MERGED) (1 Viewer)

[panther17]

It’s already getting twisted. The team needs to say they had no connection in hiding victims’ names.

People don't care about facts. Judgements will be made before details are released. Judgements will be made by reading headlines. People who dislike your team will run with the spin and ignore the details. Better to just listen to the teams lawyers then to make haste decisions. People who hate will ignore reason anyways.

Coming from someone who lives in PA but loosely follows Penn State football.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

I hate the offseason

 

[Moon]

Yeah, it looks like they were helping them just with the PR side of things, but every headline now is reading "New Orleans Saints help to conceal...". And quite frankly, they don't deserve any help at all in this matter----Gayle should've known to stay far far away from this

 

[SaintRob]

Why in the world did they use email, let alone their NFL email addresses for this? This is just beyond stupidity.

 

[insidejob]

In the Saints example, they allegedly helped the same leadership that was in charge during the sexual abuse.

Actually, the priests whose names the team was helping advise the release of names for being involved in pedophilia were actively abusing kids back in the 70's and 80's in the New Orleans Archdiocese. I remember reading the entire list when it came out. The current "Administration" had nothing to do with what was going on back then. The Archbishop in New Orleans has only been in his position in this century.

 

[Super44]

Hmm, possibly forced to sell the team?

If Gayle’s name or is not included in any of the emails, it has nothing to do with her. And even if so, it does not make her guilty of anything, UNLESS she was referred to in knowledge.

i am assuming, as most probably agree, Tom Benson gave millions of dollars to the Catholic church and some schools. That does not make him guilty of anything. Now if his name is associated and connected in anyway with emails that indicate a donation given specific in nature or remotely relative to a request from the Archdiocese to help pay for an abuse case (or many) that is a different story and would certainly be very disappointing and downright disgusting.

I hope and I pray, the latter is not the case. We shall see.

 

[Loose Cannon]

Actually, the priests whose names the team was helping advise the release of names for being involved in pedophilia were actively abusing kids back in the 70's and 80's in the New Orleans Archdiocese. I remember reading the entire list when it came out. The current "Administration" had nothing to do with what was going on back then. The Archbishop in New Orleans has only been in his position in this century.

If that's the case, mea culpa.

 

[jayd265]

I don’t wanna turn this into a religious discussion, but the Catholic Church didn’t do itself any favors by not turning in the priests, but just moving them around.

same as Jehovah's Witnesses. They are up there with the Catholic Church when it comes to pedophilia. Their rules are BS in regards to it also. Churches are FULL of this.

 

[Super44]

I don't think anyone is being accused of covering up pedophilia in this case. It's the corporate response that the Church has decided to use which people find so appalling. Make it all public. Own up to what was done, who did it, and make restitution. Stop trying to "soften the blow" or whatever the frick.

Make restitution? They should be prosecuted AND pay restitution to all parties. And if Gayle ends up being part of a conspiracy (which we have absolutely no idea), she should be forced to sell the Ssints and Pelicans. Everything right now is PURE CONJECTURE and speculation, without any of the emails and the context of those emails provided.

 

[Super44]

same as Jehovah's Witnesses. They are up there with the Catholic Church when it comes to pedophilia. There rules are BS in regards to it also. Churches are FULL of this.

You are making a very BROAD and general, blanket statement there bud! You are wrong.

 

[jayd265]

You are making a very BROAD and general, blanket statement there bud! You are wrong.

everyone can have their own opinion. doesnt make either one of us wrong.

i 100% KNOW about the BS with jehovahs witnesses and their rules and the pedophilia in that business (not religion). its no secret that other churches have this going on. just do google searches. i know its not EVERY church in EVERY city, and i never said it was EVERY church. thats a broad/general/blanket statement. what i said, is a fact.

 

[DerrickB]

Ok buddy believe that.

If Gayle’s name or is not included in any of the emails, it has nothing to do with her. And even if so, it does not make her guilty of anything, UNLESS she was referred to in knowledge.

i am assuming, as most probably agree, Tom Benson gave millions of dollars to the Catholic church and some schools. That does not make him guilty of anything. Now if his name is associated and connected in anyway with emails that indicate a donation given specific in nature or remotely relative to a request from the Archdiocese to help pay for an abuse case (or many) that is a different story and would certainly be very disappointing and downright disgusting.

I hope and I pray, the latter is not the case. We shall see.

 

[FootballLady]

Make restitution? They should be prosecuted AND pay restitution to all parties. And if Gayle ends up being part of a conspiracy (which we have absolutely no idea), she should be forced to sell the Ssints and Pelicans. Everything right now is PURE CONJECTURE and speculation, without any of the emails and the context of those emails provided.

Agreed. The Church needs to stop acting like this is some internal corporate matter and just let it all be on display. Then deal with the ramifications. Not sure why you think we are on opposing sides here.

 

[bobad]

Messaging is always "massaged". "Massaged" doesn't necessarily mean "falsified" or "BSed". It can (and usually does from a PR standpoint) mean "doing the least damage". Any kind of proofreading and wordsmithing of public announcement is a form of massaging the messsage.

I call it "spin".

 

[insidejob]

Agreed. The Church needs to stop acting like this is some internal corporate matter and just let it all be on display. Then deal with the ramifications. Not sure why you think we are on opposing sides here.

They put it all on display when they released the names of all the priests and their victims (those who'd openly sued them at least). We had a pretty large thread about it when it was released on the EE, I believe. The church is paying out big time and priests who aren't dead who were involved are being defrocked and charged.