Breaking! Saints fired Dennis Allen (4 Viewers)

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Hubig said:
Don't think Mickey survives in the offseason. You can tell this is the first time ownership and him aren't in lockstep. His weird behavior, he's not taking this situation very well since ownership bypassed him and fired Allen. His lash out over a Jeff Duncan article he wrote this passed January about players parking in the wrong spots, hinting at a lack of attention to detail. Just comes off as someone lashing out, the non-stop defending Allen to the end is also very tone deaf and wierd.

Sean Fazende of Fox 8 on his podcast said that they were stopped at where the cafeteria construction was ongoing at the facility where 12 reporters got word Mickey was going to talk to them either on or off the record and didn't show up as if he cancelled it.
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That you cited Duncan and Fazende in the same post tells me everything LOL
 
rlemieux said:
Your boss doesn’t email your direct employees employees if he/she has confidence you’re providing him/her with the correct and truthful information.

I’m actually surprised at the complete denial of facts from a couple posters here. From the reports of what happened to the actual way it happened nothing tells you Mickey had the slightest say so in this decision. I’m personally glad for that because most of what I had heard was Gayle not having much actual power when it came to football decisions. If this is true, I honestly have a lot more faith in them righting the ship. I have zero faith in Loomis though.
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LOl you do realize that an NFL team and the relationship between GB and ML is NOT like the mgr of a Popeye's asking the fry cooks and the cashiers about their shift supervisors way of doing things? I'll bet big $$$ that ML knew GB was emailing players and was fine with it because he WAS going to fire DA at the end of the season.

No I said that 1st Underhill, the most respected person covering the Saints said he thought that ML was going to fire DA after the season in his podcast
Furthermore, EJW posted this from NOF
It wasn’t hard to decipher from Mickey Loomis’ initial statements that firing coach Dennis Allen was a decision the Saints general manager didn’t want to have to make.

But when asked by NewOrleans.Football if that means he disagreed with it, Loomis said, “It’s probably more difficult than disagree. My philosophy in general is that I don't see a lot of benefit in general from making changes in midstream. So that's probably where you read the hesitancy.”

When asked if that means the decision was made primarily by owner Gayle Benson, Loomis said, “No, I’m not gonna say that. It was an organization decision.”
2nd Please share the FACTS from some posters on here of what REALLY happened . SMH
 
Hi everyone,

Can we have a thread dedicated to just how terrible of a disaster Dennis Allen was? Here I'll start us off...

It was really hard to listen to him talk "Alright" "Okay" "Now Listen" "Right" and he was a cliche monster, mostly all of Sean Paytons old cliche's "In this league blah blah blah".

Then he flew out to Los Angeles to visit Mike Thomas. Just imaging what Mike Thomas thought as he sat there listening to Dennis Allen blah blah blah.

He brought in Derek Carr to get himself fired for the 2nd time. Did he not learn from this the 1st time?

Why did he bench Alontae, then move Alontae to another role, then move him again and again.

Zac Baun fiasco need I say more?

AT Perry in the doghouse for what reason, nobody will ever know.

How come Mikey Loomis didn't see this? What does Mickey do for a job? Isn't his job to find the right coach to coach the team? What on earth gave him the impression that Dennis Allen could be the face of any franchise? The dude is a good defensive coordinator, that's it.
 
SaintsMan209 said:
Hi everyone,

Can we have a thread dedicated to just how terrible of a disaster Dennis Allen was? Here I'll start us off...

It was really hard to listen to him talk "Alright" "Okay" "Now Listen" "Right" and he was a cliche monster, mostly all of Sean Paytons old cliche's "In this league blah blah blah".

Then he flew out to Los Angeles to visit Mike Thomas. Just imaging what Mike Thomas thought as he sat there listening to Dennis Allen blah blah blah.

He brought in Derek Carr to get himself fired for the 2nd time. Did he not learn from this the 1st time?

Why did he bench Alontae, then move Alontae to another role, then move him again and again.

Zac Baun fiasco need I say more?

AT Perry in the doghouse for what reason, nobody will ever know.

How come Mikey Loomis didn't see this? What does Mickey do for a job? Isn't his job to find the right coach to coach the team? What on earth gave him the impression that Dennis Allen could be the face of any franchise? The dude is a good defensive coordinator, that's it.
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SaintsMan209 said:
Hi everyone,

Can we have a thread dedicated to just how terrible of a disaster Dennis Allen was? Here I'll start us off...

It was really hard to listen to him talk "Alright" "Okay" "Now Listen" "Right" and he was a cliche monster, mostly all of Sean Paytons old cliche's "In this league blah blah blah".

Then he flew out to Los Angeles to visit Mike Thomas. Just imaging what Mike Thomas thought as he sat there listening to Dennis Allen blah blah blah.

He brought in Derek Carr to get himself fired for the 2nd time. Did he not learn from this the 1st time?

Why did he bench Alontae, then move Alontae to another role, then move him again and again.

Zac Baun fiasco need I say more?

AT Perry in the doghouse for what reason, nobody will ever know.

How come Mikey Loomis didn't see this? What does Mickey do for a job? Isn't his job to find the right coach to coach the team? What on earth gave him the impression that Dennis Allen could be the face of any franchise? The dude is a good defensive coordinator, that's it.
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There are no words to explain how bad of a coach DA was.
 
iamsaved said:
There are no words to explain how bad of a coach DA was.
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The OP did a sufficient job, but I was hoping that he would’ve gone scorched Earth in his explanation.
What an absolute waste of 2.5 years. Any average HC would’ve won the crap division at least once in that time
 
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Mismanagement of obviously talented players is under-stressed: Baun, Kaden Ellis, Kendre Miller, under-use of Taysom Hill, misuse of Alvin Kamara as between tackles short-yardage back, lack of appreciation for Marcus Williams and Trey Hendrickson back as DC.
 
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