Saint's interested in Pacman? (1 Viewer)

[Haughton Who Dat]

Has he been re-instated back into the league yet? I don't think he has. How do you trade for somebody that isn't in the league...guess you trade for his rights. Not sure if I would want to give up a draft pick for someone's rights in the NFL...who may never be allowed back in. I sincerely hope the Cowboys take the bait.

Sorry if this has already been answered in the thread....

 

[JOElittleBIGhorn]

Bad idea!!! Why bring someone to a city that is know for drinking and strip clubs. Too much temptation for him in this city.

Force him to live on da wessbank brah. Nothing happens here anyways.

 

[Pdlc]

I just have a feeling whoever gives Pacman another chance, won't regret making that decision.

 

[JOElittleBIGhorn]

I just have a feeling whoever gives Pacman another chance, won't regret making that decision.

I actually agree. I think if you can sign him to a short term deal with behavioral clauses and cut him at the very first sign of bull ****, you might be able to make it work.

 

[workhorse]

If we can do something that would prevent bad behavior I wouldn't be against it. He says he has turned a corner but I don't know if it is really true.

Frontal lobotomies are very expensive, but that may work.

If we sign this knucklehead, I will sell my house and give the cash to the democratic party.

(good heavens, that's difficult to type...)

 

[workhorse]

It's also possible we're just trying to beef Tennessee's negotiating position by "expressing interest", in otherwords, we're giving them the ability to jack up the price on the Cowboys.

That is exactly what this is...the Titans or his agent looking around and throwing a few teams names who need CB help to drive up the price.

 

[thundergod1966]

Saints won't touch this cat with a ten foot pole! MARK IT DOWN!

 

[BoNcHiE]

Hmm...Pacman Jones is a top ten cornerback in the NFL...

He was a good corner 2 years ago. He hasn't even played in a year. I like him not only for his coverage ability but his return ability.

But its way to much of a risk. Not to mention hes not reinstated yet.

 

[Superfan]

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[Bishop]

Force him to live on da wessbank brah. Nothing happens here anyways.

I did my best to keep it hoppin when I lived in Harvey and Marrero. Sounds like you're from Avondale.

 

[SaintJ]

The problem I have with Haynesworth are not his off-the-field problems (if he even has any, i'm not aware of any). He's had I think 2 spitting incidents in practice, was nearly party to a fight between Vince Young and a defensive player over violent hits in a non-contact drill ("We need more thugs on defense" being Haynesworth's quote), of course the Gurode face-stomping incident, etc.

He's just too unstable. The risk of him blowing his top and alienating himself to the team or doing something in a game that will probably result in a lengthier suspension since it won't be his first "incident" is pretty high.

He says he's improved, I think he had to do a variety of "anger management" work as part of his first suspensions, and maybe he has. I mean people mellow out as they get older. That's an evaluation the staff would have to make.

But considering you'd have to trade a high draft pick and hand him a huge contract . . . just strikes me as risky.


Pacman is almost the inverse. We can probably get him for cheap draft pick-wise and contractually, just because he's got no negotiating leverage at all. But the bad publicity and risk of him doing something that gets him kicked from football permanently strikes me as significantly higher.

Excellent contrast between Haynesworth and Jones.

Not only is Jones hard-working, he's probably smarter than your average NFL player as well, but his lack of structure, and his inability to avoid accumulating the wrong posse and to avoid not just situations that ARE trouble, but that LEAD to trouble, are killing him.

(Which is why the 7th chance post above was so $$.)

This guy is a game-changing player, as a cover man and as a return man. He's a good teammate between the sidelines and on team property, which isn't the whole equation, but it's a big part of it. I'm trying to compare him to some NBA players with terrible reputations that, mystically, no one's heard a bad thing about in quite a while, particularly Iverson, and also Steven Jackson.

It took AI, who grew up in absolute hardscrabble, quite a while to learn that his posse also owed HIM some loyalty by self-weeding out the wrong guys and protecting their boy. The AI who talked about the honor of playing for this country and the appreciation he now has for Larry Brown is the same guy who was in a giant bowling alley brawl and "talkin' bout practice", just with a few more years on him.

I have no idea if Jones has made, is making or is ever capable of making that leap, but it's sure as hell worth looking into. The NFL is all about accruing small advantages over time, in the course of a matchup, a play, a drive, a half, a game, a season, an off-season. If you have the nerve and the judgment to get a solid gold nugget for twenty cents on the dollar just because everyone else thinks it's pyrite, that's a giant pile of small advantages right there, the kind of head start that gives you a chance to do things like win 18 games in a row and make a bid for history.

 

[bigcobra]

get em. i love it. but he would prolly live in a hotel right smackdab in the middle of bourbon street. especially since so many strip clubs have opened since katrina. lol

 

[aintsaintsgreat]

If we can do something that would prevent bad behavior I wouldn't be against it. He says he has turned a corner but I don't know if it is really true.

And O.J. said he was hunting down the real killers, too. Did ya believe that one as well?

 

[T-Man14]

This is bull. There is no way a team that prides itself and bleed character is going to sign Pacman Jones. Even if it was for $100,000 a year. Don't believe this. This is his agent trying to drum up a market for his player.

 

[fenboy73]

If we could get him on the cheap with clauses there arn't many better. Think we are being used to drive price up tho!