Saints planned to interview Mike McCarthy; McCarthy didn’t garner enough interest from Saints and will take a year off (6 Viewers)

[St. Widge]

Reid didn't win a ring in Philly, and no other Superbowl coach has gone somewhere else and won one.

What do you think that means? It's a completely irrelevant fact. Would you not have hired Payton if you were Denver?

At some point no QB had won a Super Bowl on two different teams, no team had won a Super Bowl as a Wild Card, nobody had landed on the moon, climbed Mount Everest, etc. But they all got done at some point.

 

[St. Widge]

My only question would be can he bring his offenses scheme up to the 21st century everybody that talk about the Dallas offense this season was that it was stale and outdated. The same words I heard on this forum in Payton’s last years and with Pete

And we were wrong about Payton who has shown that he can change his offense to fit the QB in Denver.

 

[St. Geezy]

Reid didn't win a ring in Philly, and no other Superbowl coach has gone somewhere else and won one.

This is kind of an unfair statement to try to pass off as an indictment on someone.

Overall, relatively speaking, hardly ANY head coaches win Super Bowls. To single out a certain subset of coaches to say they haven’t won one to damn that entire group doesn’t seem right.

Winning Super Bowls is extremely hard, because it isn’t just about how great you are, and too many people have lost sight of that for whatever reason.

 

[DavidM]

Reid didn't win a ring in Philly, and no other Superbowl coach has gone somewhere else and won one.

Okay. Take a look at the 2022 coaching class, since that involves the Saints, and for some added perspective. 6 of the 10 coaches have been fired. Daboll is arguably on the hotseat. O'Connell, Bowles, and McDaniel are having some success and could be setting up for long tenures with their respective teams. I believe out of the 10 coaches, they combine for 3 wins in the postseason so far (1 each; Bowles, Daboll, and Pederson).

You seem to be seriously dismissing just how hard it is for coaches to succeed in the NFL.

 

[MikeyF]

My only question would be can he bring his offenses scheme up to the 21st century everybody that talk about the Dallas offense this season was that it was stale and outdated. The same words I heard on this forum in Payton’s last years and with Pete

Same words out of Philly when they forced Andy Reid out...

 

[St. Geezy]

 

[texasjefe]

No, he's an active coach who has more skins on the wall than any other candidate, and its not close.

Yes, pork skins.

Good job though auditioning as Mike's publicist.

Mike's a meh retread coach that Mickey would be rescuing. Mickey's claim to fame is the cojones he had bringing in Payton. Is Mickey willing to take a hiring risk where's he accountable?

Not if he hires old Couch Potato Daddy. With Dennis being kicked off the ship by the owner, Mickey needs a new bud.

 

[SpeckKillerII]

What a short memory some of you have. Do y’all not remember when he was our OC in the Haslett regime? If so you remember the complete collapse of Aaron Brooks and the year that McCarthy refused to bench Brooks when all we needed was to win 1 game of our final 3 but McCarthy and his arrogance would not put Jake Delhomme in or start any of those games. When we got to the final game of the season it was the last chance and he still would not start or put Delhomme in the game. Before anybody says “well obviously he wasn’t ready” the very next year Delhomme takes Carolina to the Superbowl!! You really want someone who made these kind of decision mistakes to be our HC? No way!

 

[St. Widge]

What a short memory some of you have. Do y’all not remember when he was our OC in the Haslett regime? If so you remember the complete collapse of Aaron Brooks and the year that McCarthy refused to bench Brooks when all we needed was to win 1 game of our final 3 but McCarthy and his arrogance would not put Jake Delhomme in or start any of those games. When we got to the final game of the season it was the last chance and he still would not start or put Delhomme in the game. Before anybody says “well obviously he wasn’t ready” the very next year Delhomme takes Carolina to the Superbowl!! You really want someone who made these kind of decision mistakes to be our HC? No way!

You posted this yesterday and it's a false narrative because Haslett was the HC who decided who would start, not McCarthy.

Beyond that, it was almost 20 years ago and since then McCarthy has won a Super Bowl, been in 4 NFC Championship Games, been in the playoffs 12 of 18 years, and won 174 NFL games (.608 win percentage).

So, yes, I recall what went on with Brooks and Delhomme, but it wasn't McCarthy’s decision and even if it was, it's irrelevant given the things that have happened in the last 20 or so years.

Oh, and when he was healthy, Brooks was a better QB than Delhomme. But, Delhomme should have started those last 3 games because Brooks was not healthy and could not play to his usual level.

 

[reason2believe]

The last time we jumped on a good ole boy late fire from Dallas it was a disaster wish DC Ryan. No thank you on a knee jerk hire.

 

[St. Widge]

The last time we jumped on a good ole boy late fire from Dallas it was a disaster wish DC Ryan. No thank you on a knee jerk hire.

Do you remember the other coaching hire we made from Dallas?

And it makes no difference who prior hires worked for or how they worked out. They have no influence on how this decision would work out.

 

[Rouxble]

What a short memory some of you have. Do y’all not remember when he was our OC in the Haslett regime? If so you remember the complete collapse of Aaron Brooks and the year that McCarthy refused to bench Brooks when all we needed was to win 1 game of our final 3 but McCarthy and his arrogance would not put Jake Delhomme in or start any of those games. When we got to the final game of the season it was the last chance and he still would not start or put Delhomme in the game. Before anybody says “well obviously he wasn’t ready” the very next year Delhomme takes Carolina to the Superbowl!! You really want someone who made these kind of decision mistakes to be our HC? No way!

 

[bigdaddysaints]

What a short memory some of you have. Do y’all not remember when he was our OC in the Haslett regime? If so you remember the complete collapse of Aaron Brooks and the year that McCarthy refused to bench Brooks when all we needed was to win 1 game of our final 3 but McCarthy and his arrogance would not put Jake Delhomme in or start any of those games. When we got to the final game of the season it was the last chance and he still would not start or put Delhomme in the game. Before anybody says “well obviously he wasn’t ready” the very next year Delhomme takes Carolina to the Superbowl!! You really want someone who made these kind of decision mistakes to be our HC? No way!

i don't consider 20 years ago short memory. And do you specifically remember it being McCarthy who was the one who wouldn't switch, or was it Haslett?

Do you have a short memory that while in New York, Payton had his play calling duties taken away from him becuase of poor offensive performances, only for the team to instantly improve and made the playoffs? (thats not opinion, thats his own words).

i mean, if you want to split hairs.....

 

[Covington Saint]

I don't mind people preferring a different candidate.

But don't give lazy arguments of mccarthy won't have success. Or a retread line like that means anything then offer a kingsburry suggestion. Don't sit here and pretend like candidate x will be a better hire than mccarthy like you know the future.

I rather someone just say watching joe brady or kellen moore try to succeed in this league will be more fun for me than watching McCarthy coach whom i've watched coach for 18 years already.