Saints planned to interview Mike McCarthy; McCarthy didn’t garner enough interest from Saints and will take a year off (5 Viewers)

[rail]

Alright, you guys convinced me. I'll put the call in to Mickey and make this happen

 

[DaveXA]

2nd down and 3. Carr throws it 30 yards for a low percentage pass. 3rd down and ten. Carr checks it down for a three yard pass. I am still pissed at the hospital balls he has thrown. I hate how his percentage goes up when we are losing in the fourth quarter. Eric McCoy almost beat the breaks off of him last year because he cannot decipher protection. Then blamed his Offensive line. When he hung Olave out last year when he was not even in the progression. I knew then I hated this dude. Then he is smug. Go look at the tape. He is not taking a pay cut. He is not serious. McCarthy will bring very respectable Defensive players. He will bring Cooper Rush over from Dallas for 3-5 Million Dollars. He will rebuild it. The idea of Derek Carr staying here makes me sick to my stomach. Get out of Salary Cap hell. Go get Arch next year

The best way to get out of salary cap hell is for Carr to stay on one more season, no extensions or anything and cut him after next season. Cutting him now makes very little difference.

And sure, Carr has his flaws, but he's the best option we have unless Rattler makes a huge improvement this offseason.

McCarthy isn't bringing Rush here. Certainly not for peanuts. And how are you gonna pay him? You aren't gonna have the cap space to sign him if you cut Carr.

 

[DavidM]

A salient point, along with the Cowboys really regressing this year, even when Dak was healthy......

BUT, I still think he is the "safest" choice, his track record speaks for itself, his teams are in the playoffs more than they are not and he has got tons of experience....the unknown is can he handle the full control thing, I can't remember if he did it in GB honestly, we know he had his hands tied with JJ in Dallas.....

That said, I still want to take a chance on a younger offensive mind that would be here longer potentially, still want Joe Brady....we will see what happens....

Agree and I think that's a fair take.

The way I frame the distinction is that I'd go into next season feeling more excited with one of the young OCs (largely because of the unknown potential) but more confident with McCarthy.

 

[UptownSaintsFan]

I could not think of a less exciting pick than McCarthy. I'm surprised people here are so gung ho for him. Seems to be a high floor low ceiling coach. The derek carr of coaches if you will.

 

[FloridaSaintsFan]

I hate him

Think you are forgetting about Richard Todd

 

[texasjefe]

McCarthy alienated his way out of Green Bay, and he did little with Dallas' talent when it mattered. He's a retread. He won a Super Bowl with a generational QB after we did, which was a long time ago. Dak's ceiling with McCarthy is set in stone which is probably why they have to move on from McCarthy in Dallas. If Mickey rescues this guy like he rescued Derek out of Vegas, the Mickey brainrot is worse than currently assessed. If he falls for McCarthy's availability without waiting for playoff assistants to free up, then God help us all.

 

[DaveXA]

I could not think of a less exciting pick than McCarthy. I'm surprised people here are so gung ho for him. Seems to be a high floor low ceiling coach. The derek carr of coaches if you will.

How in the heck are you comparing a guy who led his teams to the playoffs 13 out of his 18 seasons and has a Super Bowl win to a guy who has never won a playoff game and a career overall losing record?

He's more Sean Payton than Carr and it's not close, lol.

 

[Saint Jack]

I could not think of a less exciting pick than McCarthy. I'm surprised people here are so gung ho for him. Seems to be a high floor low ceiling coach. The derek carr of coaches if you will.

McCarthy has a Super Bowl.
He’s also in the top twenty in coaching wins in the history of the league.

 

[St. Widge]

I could not think of a less exciting pick than McCarthy. I'm surprised people here are so gung ho for him. Seems to be a high floor low ceiling coach. The derek carr of coaches if you will.

He's certainly not exciting, but the guy has won a Super Bowl, been in 4 NFC Championship games, has a .608 career winning percentage, has been in the playoffs 13 of his 18 years as a HC, and was 12-5 three of the last four years. How is that a low ceiling? Seems like an incredibly low risk hire which isn't exciting, but it's not a low ceiling.

And I'm not sure how that's anything like Carr who hasn't won anything anywhere.

 

[DaveXA]

McCarthy alienated his way out of Green Bay,

Aaron Rodgers...need i say more?

and he did little with Dallas' talent when it mattered.

Maybe, but Dallas is Jerry's team no matter who is HC at Dallas.

He's a retread.

No, he's an active coach who has more skins on the wall than any other candidate, and its not close.

He won a Super Bowl with a generational QB after we did, which was a long time ago.

So? Same can be said of Payton. Look what hes doing now in Denver.

Dak's ceiling with McCarthy is set in stone which is probably why they have to move on from McCarthy in Dallas.

Dak is a good qb, but he too often disappears when the game is on the line.

If Mickey rescues this guy like he rescued Derek out of Vegas, the Mickey brainrot is worse than currently assessed.

Comparing Carr with McCarthy is looney tunes.

If he falls for McCarthy's availability without waiting for playoff assistants to free up, then God help us all.

Dramatic much?

 

[St. Geezy]

I feel like most of the people hating on McCarthy are doing so because a.) he has the stain of the Cowboys star on him, and b.) because he’s a long time coach with “only” one ring, and is deemed overall as a boring guy personality-wise.

The guy’s results as a team leader and program facilitator are remarkable though, akin to Sean Payton.

As Saints fans, we should all be well aware by now just how fragile a season could be and how sometimes, many times, acts outside of your control dictate whether or not you advance regularly in the playoffs.

Hell, even the year we won our only Super Bowl, do we get there if the Redskins’ kicker doesn’t miss a chip shot FG which eventually helped us get homefield advantage, or the ball doesn’t keep bouncing our way in the NFC title game, or we don’t win a literal OT coin flip in said title game?

Look at how often a candidate wins as the barometer, not championships.

Now, if we do find ourselves in a predicament where we keep getting there under him and losing in round 1, then we assess it then, but for now, give me the guy that manages to keep getting double digit win seasons.

 

[Ediddy7023]

Im hoping Mccarthy can be like Andy Reid.
Get to his final landing spot. Build the team and qb he wants and creates a dynasty. However I would not mind a younger guy. Regardless im just happy to see change

 

[No2DC]

Im hoping Mccarthy can be like Andy Reid.
Get to his final landing spot. Build the team and qb he wants and creates a dynasty. However I would not mind a younger guy. Regardless im just happy to see change

Reid didn't win a ring in Philly, and no other Superbowl coach has gone somewhere else and won one.

 

[Saints 318]

No Saints fan has been able to explain the difference between Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy and every Saints fan would have wanted Payton back. They have the same career arc lol. I just don't get it.

I don't get what's so bad about McCarthy when he's coming off a solid run with a Cowboys team that won't ever win anything until Jerry

My only question would be can he bring his offenses scheme up to the 21st century everybody that talk about the Dallas offense this season was that it was stale and outdated. The same words I heard on this forum in Payton’s last years and with Pete