Saints planned to interview Mike McCarthy; McCarthy didn’t garner enough interest from Saints and will take a year off (7 Viewers)

[HogsNSaints]

So... what if there is a MM vs SP super bowl in the future?

Rosters being equal I think Sean Payton would eat that arse like beef stroganoff.

So hire someone only 36 years old with absolutely Zero experience, sounds a bit wreckless wouldn’t you say?

The Saints will still require an elite QB1 regardless who the coach is going forward. I like my chances with MM plus an elite Qb compared to the other options. ( Rattler may develop into an elite Qb, or we draft say Howard or similar or trade up for Ward, or find the FA that’s ready to step up).

I mean I can repost the stats on 3rd try HCs that failed, or I can bring up Sean McVay and Mike Tomlin again. But at this point I feel like I’m saying the same thing in 12 different threads.

 

[Rexman100]

One is seeking his 3rd chance after his first two did not want him around anymore, while the other is on his second job after breaking the hearts of everyone in the organization and all of that teams’ fans that did not want him to go.

One is > .500 with a backup QB or a QB that’s not named Drew Brees. The others’ win % is sub .350 with a QB that’s not named Aaron Rodgers or Dak Prescott, two guys I think were top 10 QBs after (AR) and before (Dak) he was their head coach. Chargers on the other hand, let Brees out of the building and he ascended with Payton.

I think we’d all put Brees above Rodgers legacy-wise, but I also think most would acknowledge there’s never been a QB more talented than Aaron Rodgers. I think the gap that exists in their resumes and their legacies is that Drew Brees had Sean Payton and Aaron Rodgers had Mike McCarthy.

Your argument is void. Dak Prescott was an average QB trending to the bench. Then MM got to Dallas and developed him into an efficient QB that earned a giant contract. Brett Farve was the QB when MM was hired in GB. So Arod owes everything he’s become for the most part, due to MM ability to develop QBs.

Sean Payton broke Saints fans hearts is because the Saints have never been consistently good and he won us a Super Bowl. Green Bay has seen success before Mike was there, they won a Super Bowl w/ Favre. Much different scenarios from a fans POV

 

[kcirdor]

Rosters being equal I think Sean Payton would eat that arse like beef stroganoff.

Well that's pretty kinky.

 

[Rexman100]

Rosters being equal I think Sean Payton would eat that arse like beef stroganoff.



I mean I can repost the stats on 3rd try HCs that failed, or I can bring up Sean McVay and Mike Tomlin again. But at this point I feel like I’m saying the same thing in 12 different threads.

Save yourself, your arguments are easily debunked. Just say what you really think. That You hate heavy coaches, or you feel some kind of desire for a young coach that we all can watch develop. .
I agree, that would be fun to watch a young coach develop, but the problem is, is that the current state of the team is in shambles, that the fan pressure to fire the young guy would be immense when he’s 0-8 to start next year. Everyone will be saying, I can’t believe we passed on a Super Bowl winning coach for this kid.

 

[HogsNSaints]

Your argument is void. Dak Prescott was an average QB trending to the bench. Then MM got to Dallas and developed him into an efficient QB that earned a giant contract. Brett Farve was the QB when MM was hired in GB. So Arod owes everything he’s become for the most part, due to MM ability to develop QBs.

Sean Payton broke Saints fans hearts is because the Saints have never been consistently good and he won us a Super Bowl. Green Bay has seen success before Mike was there, they won a Super Bowl w/ Favre. Much different scenarios from a fans POV

Absolutely FALSE statement on Dak Prescott. He averaged 4K yards per season, his TD to INT numbers were 97:36 before he ever even met McCarthy.. He’s made 3 Pro Bowls in his career and 2/3 were before McCarthy. Just a completely nonsense comment.

The Rodgers became Rodgers comment is fine if you want to believe that. But you’d also have to acknowledge that Joe Burrow was not Joe Burrow until Joe Brady entered the picture, if that’s the path you’re taking. Another guy tried to do that and literally raged out when I compared the two.

 

[HogsNSaints]

Save yourself, your arguments are easily debunked. Just say what you really think. That You hate heavy coaches, or you feel some kind of desire for a young coach that we all can watch develop. .
I agree, that would be fun to watch a young coach develop, but the problem is, is that the current state of the team is in shambles, that the fan pressure to fire the young guy would be immense when he’s 0-8 to start next year. Everyone will be saying, I can’t believe we passed on a Super Bowl winning coach for this kid.

Whose arguments are easily debunked? You’re the guy that said easily verifiable 2X Pro Bowler Dak Prescott had never accomplished anything until McCarthy came along. Good try, though.

 

[StudioSaint]

Really strange, isn’t it? It’s like they’re intentionally holding off on it or something. So odd.

When McCarthy first became available, there was that little blip of a story that the Saints were slowing down the process with McCarthy out of some concern that Loomis has a son that works for the Cowboys.

There have been times when a team has decided to hire a coach, but are coy about it until they satisfy the Rooney Rule.

I hope this isn't a situation were the Saints did something with McCarthy that could be considered tampering, so they're playing coy like they aren't even that interested in McCarthy.

 

[St. Geezy]

When McCarthy first became available, there was that little blip of a story that the Saints were slowing down the process out of some concern that Loomis has a son that works for the Cowboys.

There have been times when a team has decided to hire a coach, but are coy about it until they satisfy the Rooney Rule.

I hope this isn't a situation were the Saints did anything with McCarthy that could be considered tampering, so they're playing coy like they aren't even that interested in McCarthy.

Yep. There have been hints since early January.

 

[rlemieux]

Take it for what it’s worth but I had a conversation with someone earlier that word is McCarthy is thinking about sitting out the hiring process this year. Bad look for the Saints might be getting worse.

 

[StudioSaint]

Take it for what it’s worth but I had a conversation with someone earlier that word is McCarthy is thinking about sitting out the hiring process this year. Bad look for the Saints might be getting worse.

Yesterday or the day before, another poster who's had inside information before said that he heard that McCarthy and his team were lobbying the Saints hard for the job.

If one is not talking directly the decision makers on the hiring committee, then one doesn't have very reliable information about what is going on. Things get miscommunicated and misinterpreted. Just like the telephone game shows, the more links of people there are in the information change, the more unreliable the information is.

 

[kcirdor]

MM turned Aaron Brooks into a Saints Legend if we're doing QB Bataille.

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

I have to give some credit to McCarthy for Rodgers' success, but in natural ability, Rodgers is one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play in the NFL. More natural ability than Brees, Peyton, and Brady.

I find it strange that an interview with McCarthy has not been definitely scheduled. It suggests that the interest of one or both of the parties is less than we believe. If McCarthy is really serious about the job and if the Saints are seriously considering him, you would think he would have interviewed by this time and certainly would be flying in on Monday. It may simply be that McCarthy wants a year off rather than rushing into any job in 2025. He did take a year off after he left Green Bay.

If McCarthy is not really interested and given Brady's announcement that he will not be interviewing, then it is time for the Saints to decide whether the new coach will be Weaver, Rizzi, or Kalka. The Rooney Rule has been satisfied. The three listed have had their in-person interviews (assuming Kafka did come in today). The team has had enough time to do its due diligence. It's time to make a decision.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

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Why would anyone want McCarthy? Wasted AR career and had a Cowboy team with way more talent than we have and did nothing. Can someone tell me a positive with this guy?

some outside of the Saints could say SP wasted Drews career. Drew should have had three SBs.
(i don't agree with that statement but that's basically how you sound)

 

[DSnfla]

WTF does anything that Ensminger say have to do with anything here.....

Where is he now? I can tell you where he isn't, he isn't the OC of a team one game away from the SB.....

And you continue to totally miss/ignore why a team with one of the top young QB's in the NFL pursued Brady in the 1st place....

Total clown post above, shouldn't have expected anything different.....

Well maybe because Ensminger WAS the OC and the guy IN CHARGE of the offense!!!! Ensminger is retired from coaching to be an analyst, it was his choice.
Riddle me this Batman, what do Dabol , Dorsey and Brady all have in common?
Dabol got a HC gig because of JOSH ALLEN, Dorsey was getting HC interviews because of JOSH ALLEN. Brady get's HC interviews because of JOSH ALLEN. Must be something going on in Buffalo