Saints planned to interview Mike McCarthy; McCarthy didn’t garner enough interest from Saints and will take a year off (5 Viewers)

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sfidc3 said:
You're anti-Brady bias has no bounds, you have never acknowledged why a team may have wanted said Brady to work with their easily top 2-3 QB in the NFL.....perhaps Brady was their only option, the only young promising OC willing to work with the likes of JOSH ALLEN, yup, he's all they could get.....LMAO at the clown post above....

What's going on in Buffalo is they are 1 game away from their first SB appearance in over 30 years and whether you recognize it or not, Brady is a big reason for that.....
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are you saying Buffalos problem in the past since they had Josh Allen as their QB is their offensive production? other than Allen's rookie season, their offense is been pretty good..
 
Hedon James said:
I don't know what to think anymore. I'm all for being thorough, speaking to all viable candidates, dotting I's and crossing T's.

But here we are...we had an 8 week head start on everyone but the Jets. And somehow everyone else performed their due diligence, got the guy they wanted (or at least say they did), and we STILL don't know who we favor, let alone who we want? And now we have supposed favorites withdrawing from consideration? Is ML really that much smarter than the rest of the room? Or is he one of the reasons it's taking longer than every other team to fill a HC vacancy?

Something smells funny to me, but I don't know what it is...
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If the Lions had beat the Commanders two other teams wouldn’t have coaches yet.

If the Ravens had beat the Bills we’d all have heard from Joe Brady a week ago.

It snowed in New Orleans last week. All in-person coaching interviews got delayed out of necessity.

Why are we still doing this lol
 
Saint KayBee said:
If the Lions had beat the Commanders two other teams wouldn’t have coaches yet.

If the Ravens had beat the Bills we’d all have heard from Joe Brady a week ago.

It snowed in New Orleans last week. All in-person coaching interviews got delayed out of necessity.

Why are we still doing this lol
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All fair comments. But if I may be allowed to play devil's advocate:

The Commanders won, and 2 other teams DID hire their coaches as a result of that. One of which was RUMORED to be a top target of the Saints. The 2nd didn't even want to talk to the Saints. Who knows what that thought process was? But I do find it perplexing why anyone wouldn't TALK to a prospective employer about potential opportunities for career advancement.

If the Ravens had beat the Bills, maybe Joe Brady would've withdrawn his name a week ago? Again, who knows why? Again, I do find it perplexing why anyone wouldn't TALK to a prospective employer about potential opportunities for career advancement.

It did snow in New Orleans last week. But there's also snow in Philadelphia. I understand NO probably isn't well equipped to deal with snow emergency, anymore than Philadelphia is equipped to deal with suffocating, triple digit heat and humidity. If only there was a way to charter a flight to Philly LAST week, to meet with a candidate in his current team facilities rather than NO facilities, perhaps this discussion is moot.

We're still doing this because, while your explanations are certainly plausible, and may in fact be correct; my alternative scenarios for explanation are equally as plausible, and also may be correct. We just don't KNOW.

Honestly, I like your explanations better, and I hope you're right. My biggest fear is that mine are right, because that would mean I have to acknowledge something I don't want to be true. I'm CLINGING to the notion that CSP fell into laps in 2006 and that worked out pretty well. It could happen again. Jeezus....PLEASE let it happen again!
 
sfidc3 said:
You're anti-Brady bias has no bounds, you have never acknowledged why a team may have wanted said Brady to work with their easily top 2-3 QB in the NFL.....perhaps Brady was their only option, the only young promising OC willing to work with the likes of JOSH ALLEN, yup, he's all they could get.....LMAO at the clown post above....

What's going on in Buffalo is they are 1 game away from their first SB appearance in over 30 years and whether you recognize it or not, Brady is a big reason for that.....
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I answered your question a while back but I'll try and appeal to the logic of the situation. When you have a young or even a QB that needs development you hire a QB whisperer to get the QB to where he needs to be. When you have and elite top 4 QB the need for a QB whisperer as a QB coach is not a dire need.

In 22 Daboll left the Bills to be HC for the Giants , he took Tierney the ast QB coach with him to NY. The Bills promoted Dorsey the QB coach to OC so there was a need for a QB coach. Allen was ALREADY AN ELITE QB before Brady got there.

My thing is like I said, way too much credit is given to him for LSU's success when he did not call plays there. He did not do well in Car , the only time he did not have an elite QB. He's not ready to be a HC , he may be one day but not now
 
Hedon James said:
All fair comments. But if I may be allowed to play devil's advocate:

The Commanders won, and 2 other teams DID hire their coaches as a result of that. One of which was RUMORED to be a top target of the Saints. The 2nd didn't even want to talk to the Saints. Who knows what that thought process was? But I do find it perplexing why anyone wouldn't TALK to a prospective employer about potential opportunities for career advancement.

If the Ravens had beat the Bills, maybe Joe Brady would've withdrawn his name a week ago? Again, who knows why? Again, I do find it perplexing why anyone wouldn't TALK to a prospective employer about potential opportunities for career advancement.

It did snow in New Orleans last week. But there's also snow in Philadelphia. I understand NO probably isn't well equipped to deal with snow emergency, anymore than Philadelphia is equipped to deal with suffocating, triple digit heat and humidity. If only there was a way to charter a flight to Philly LAST week, to meet with a candidate in his current team facilities rather than NO facilities, perhaps this discussion is moot.

We're still doing this because, while your explanations are certainly plausible, and may in fact be correct; my alternative scenarios for explanation are equally as plausible, and also may be correct. We just don't KNOW.

Honestly, I like your explanations better, and I hope you're right. My biggest fear is that mine are right, because that would mean I have to acknowledge something I don't want to be true. I'm CLINGING to the notion that CSP fell into laps in 2006 and that worked out pretty well. It could happen again. Jeezus....PLEASE let it happen again!
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I think when a team is doing in-person interviews, they’re going to tour the facilities as a part of that to talk about recent upgrades, ongoing upgrades, and planned ones too. Having a once-a-century weather event should have allowed even some grace from the fanbase but it didn’t - I guess they thought the team could, like, overcome it with brainpower or something.

By the temporary playoff fan poll I ran here a couple weeks ago, Johnson & Glenn should have still been coaching. One not wanting the job and one considering it but taking a different one has zero to do with the fact that those vacancies were expected to go unfilled a bit longer. Even if CHI & NYJ were done deals but for the formalities, the formalities came earlier than anticipated. That still closes two job openings earlier. They could still be on the waiting list but the 1-seed blew homefield advantage and now they have their coaches. Whoopty-doo.
 
DSnfla said:
I answered your question a while back but I'll try and appeal to the logic of the situation. When you have a young or even a QB that needs development you hire a QB whisperer to get the QB to where he needs to be. When you have and elite top 4 QB the need for a QB whisperer as a QB coach is not a dire need.

In 22 Daboll left the Bills to be HC for the Giants , he took Tierney the ast QB coach with him to NY. The Bills promoted Dorsey the QB coach to OC so there was a need for a QB coach. Allen was ALREADY AN ELITE QB before Brady got there.

My thing is like I said, way too much credit is given to him for LSU's success when he did not call plays there. He did not do well in Car , the only time he did not have an elite QB. He's not ready to be a HC , he may be one day but not now
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You haven't answered anything, you continue to post your opinions as fact.....here is my opinion (I'm not posting it as fact).....Allen was an elite talent but not an elite QB before Brady got there, to be an elite QB IMO your TD/INT ratio is as important (or even more) as yards, completion %, etc......

Since Brady became the OC Allen's TD/INT ratio has dramatically improved.....if you don't think that is an important metric then you really don't know much about football....

The refs also cheated the Bills out of that game, which is why I can't really take the NFL seriously any longer, it's just entertainment.....
 
Hedon James said:
If only there was a way to charter a flight to Philly LAST week, to meet with a candidate in his current team facilities rather than NO facilities, perhaps this discussion is moot.
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Regarding Kellen Moore ... at the time, he was unavailable by league rules for an in-person interview.

There are limited windows to hold in-person interviews with playoff coaches during the playoffs:

1) Coaches from #1 seed teams on a bye can attend an in-person interview during the week before the first round games

2) Coaches from the Super Bowl teams can attend an in-person interview the week after the conference championship games

Assistant coaches say interviewing during the NFL playoffs isn't a distraction

Only the coordinators who interviewed for head coaching jobs before playoff games know if those conversations with other teams were a distraction. The NFL’s hiring process became a hot topic after the Detroit Lions were knocked out of the playoffs. The Lions went 15-2 and earned the NFC’s No...
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sfidc3 said:
You haven't answered anything, you continue to post your opinions as fact.....here is my opinion (I'm not posting it as fact).....Allen was an elite talent but not an elite QB before Brady got there, to be an elite QB IMO your TD/INT ratio is as important (or even more) as yards, completion %, etc......

Since Brady became the OC Allen's TD/INT ratio has dramatically improved.....if you don't think that is an important metric then you really don't know much about football....

The refs also cheated the Bills out of that game, which is why I can't really take the NFL seriously any longer, it's just entertainment.....
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That guy has downplayed Brady’s involvement in every stop he’s had. I even pointed out that his lone full year with a very bad Carolina offense was that offense’s best statistical season since Cam Newton was in the MVP hunt. He followed as if Teddy Bridgewater, who had his best season as a pro passer, was essentially the 2nd coming of Brees and Brady didn’t do enough with him.

He brushes all the truth of Joe Brady’s success off. He’s a cranky hater. I assume he hasn’t been getting good nights of sleep because Joe Brady danced with his wife at a wedding and flipped her 8 times like a swing dancer or something. That’s a Tim Robinson reference, no one flame me.
 
That's weird take. If the team don't want someone then they move on.
 

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