Should Jeff Duncan write an apology to Drew Brees for Duncan's biased assessment of Brees' comments?(MERGED) (2 Viewers)

[blackadder]

I agree. I do not need lessons in what Drew Brees should have the freedom to say from a left wing nut like Jeff Duncan. Stick to football, Jeffrey!

I'm a fan of Drew's but he should stick to football too.

Who started this?

If it's Drew's right to express his opinion's then it's Duncan's too.

But I wish both would leave it alone and stick to football.

 

[purgatorysaint]

liberty is liberal

I know quite a few political science experts that would disagree. Higher taxes and massive govt spending is liberal and that sure as heck hurts our liberties. Liberals want freedom as long as that freedom meets there standards.

 

[fingers]

For all the people bringing up Gen Petraeus and Gitmo and human rights, you need to stop fooling yourselves into thinking his reasons are only for human rights, he wants it shut down because of the propaganda. Just look up Bagram airbase prison http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/03/washington/03bagram.html?_r=1

 

[blackadder]

I know quite a few political science experts that would disagree. Higher taxes and massive govt spending is liberal and that sure as heck hurts our liberties. Liberals want freedom as long as that freedom meets there standards.

Except until Obama continued with the bailout plan hatched under the Goldman Sachs ..er...Bush administration it was the Republicans who expanded entitlement spending dramtiacally and overall spending at the fastest pace since WWII.

They're all in on it.

They're all liberals. Democrat liberals want the money spent on domestic nation-building and Republicans want it spent on global policing and building other nations (into mature investment markets).

Either outlet is inherently wasteful.

 

[bearze34]

Two threads on this opinion piece???

It has nothing to do with football.
It has everything to do with readers' political affiliations.
Why is it here? It should be a 10 page thread on the EE board. Where, eventually, posters will revert to name calling.

Not at all. Brees is entitled to his opinion as is Duncan. What difference does it make? I am glad that everyone has the right to express their viewpoints. If we try and somehow hold him to account for his thoughts next we will be saying that someone else also should be silenced and away we go to censorship based upon the whims of those in power.

 

[bayoubadboy]

Just a couple of points

• Anyone giving credence to an investigation by a United Nations Commission needs his head examined.
• and, the timing of this article is highly suspect. It has NOTHING to do with football and is released 3 days before the opening of training camp.

With training camp just around the corner there is a lot of newsworthy Saints discussion out there.

Ask yourself, why did Duncan want to throw this distraction into the fray?

 

[purgatorysaint]

Except until Obama continued with the bailout plan hatched under the Goldman Sachs ..er...Bush administration it was the Republicans who expanded entitlement spending dramtiacally and overall spending at the fastest pace since WWII.

They're all in on it.

They're all liberals. Democrat liberals want the money spent on domestic nation-building and Republicans want it spent on global policing and building other nations (into mature investment markets).

Either outlet is inherently wasteful.

I'm with you on the overspending. All of them are horrible which is why I have become more libertarian by the day.

Yes, Bush spent way too much but now this bum (Obama) has taken the budget and put it on steroids. I will vote for whoever has a track record of fiscal responsibility in the next election.................

 

[Guitarzan]

I know quite a few political science experts that would disagree. Higher taxes and massive govt spending is liberal and that sure as heck hurts our liberties. Liberals want freedom as long as that freedom meets there standards.

much like "gay" has been changed to mean homosexual, liberal has been change to connote "Higher taxes and massive govt spending"
when it actually means:
Middle English, from Anglo-French liberté, from Latin libertat-, libertas, from liber free
so please don't be so presumptive to tell me what I want.

 

[Don Juan]

For all the people bringing up Gen Petraeus and Gitmo and human rights, you need to stop fooling yourselves into thinking his reasons are only for human rights, he wants it shut down because of the propaganda. Just look up Bagram airbase prison http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/03/washington/03bagram.html?_r=1

I love when someone with real insight says stuff like this becuse i have been to Bagram AB and lets say Gitmo is a propaganda move because THE WORLD does not like it... so you do the math... good post dude

 

[blackadder]

I agree. I do not need lessons in what Drew Brees should have the freedom to say from a left wing nut like Jeff Duncan. Stick to football, Jeffrey!

And I don't need a football player's opinion on foreign policy. I can dismiss both equally but the OP seems to be suggesting in a way that the football player's opinion in this area carries weight, but the sports writer's does not...

 

[champ76]

And I don't need a football player's opinion on foreign policy. I can dismiss both equally but the OP seems to be suggesting in a way that the football player's opinion in this area carries weight, but the sports writer's does not...

This is the difference, I think. Part of Drew's job as an NFL player in the limelight is to perform public service, and one of the public services he performs is USO trips. Now when he comes back from one of those trips and is questioned by reporters, I would bet dollars to doughnuts some of those questions call for his opinion on what he's seen or heard. I suspect that's what happened in this case. It's not as if he came back from the trip and got on a soapbox and began to recite his opinions. No one asked Jeff Duncan for his opinion, but he felt compelled to give it. And in a snarky way. I don't think he should apologize to Drew, because he has a right to give his opinion. But I think it was out of place and ill-timed.

 

[blackadder]

This is the difference, I think. Part of Drew's job as an NFL player in the limelight is to perform public service, and one of the public services he performs is USO trips. Now when he comes back from one of those trips and is questioned by reporters, I would bet dollars to doughnuts some of those questions call for his opinion on what he's seen or heard. I suspect that's what happened in this case. It's not as if he came back from the trip and got on a soapbox and began to recite his opinions. No one asked Jeff Duncan for his opinion, but he felt compelled to give it. And in a snarky way. I don't think he should apologize to Drew, because he has a right to give his opinion. But I think it was out of place and ill-timed.

I can see that but the issues I have are:

1) Twitter, where I first saw Drew's opinion on Guantanamo, is a personal platform and if anything in this world serves as a virtual, personal soapbox, it is Twitter.

2) While on tour with USO, Drew will see and hear exactly what officials want him to see and hear, so it all has to be digested with that in mind.

Duncan and Drew are sports personalities with political opinions. They are free to speak them but both should probably leave it lie.