Should Jeff Duncan write an apology to Drew Brees for Duncan's biased assessment of Brees' comments?(MERGED) (4 Viewers)

[Saint Jeremy]

Cristian conservative is an oxymoron
Jesus was a liberal

I'm a Wican Libertarian.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

What in that article was even remotely critical of Drew?

Are we that sensitive that someone might, *gasp*, have a different opinion than someone else and dare voice it?

Jeff said absolutely nothing negative towards or about Drew Brees at all. Drew made a political statement, and Jeff noted his disagreement about that political statement. That's it.

Really? I mean, really?

 

[CRESS_137]

Two threads on this opinion piece???

It has nothing to do with football.
It has everything to do with readers' political affiliations.
Why is it here? It should be a 10 page thread on the EE board. Where, eventually, posters will revert to name calling.

hahaha, good stuff

 

[Sniper Wolf]

Cristian conservative is an oxymoron
Jesus was a liberal

He was also a Socialist.

 

[new city champ]

I too think Drew is off base on this one, but it is odd that Duncan would respond. I think this part of what happens as journalism moves into blogging, which encourages a lot of wide ranging posts.

And just to add my two cents to the underlying issue, among those endorsing the shutdown of Gitmo is General Petraeus, so hardly think its a question of "supporting the troops" or not.

 

[Guitarzan]

He was also a Socialist.

this is true

 

[Saintman2884]

Guitarzan mentioned nothing is ever really fair. That's a good enough summarry and I for one agree with him.

After all Drew Brees only went to Gitmo to show his support for our armed forces, just like he did going to Iraq, Kuwait, Afghanistan, seeing our soldiers, giving them at least a brief reminder of life back home, and to encourage them in a hellish environment where IED's and mortar attacks are being fired at them possibly every day of the week.

One might think a well-regarded local celebrity like Drew Brees, who along with his wife, have settled into the New Orleans community, done a enormous amount of charity work,. helped build homes for low-income families via Habitat for Humanity, building them along side with President Jimmy Carter, and try to rebuild a torned up city that was sky bombed by a catashrophic hurricanee disaster and an inept federal response. One might think Duncan wouldn't try to be percieved as so tactful and causing a minor controversy by ear-nosing Brees over certain political differences or affiliatations

But Duncan has every fundamental right to voice his disagreements with Brees visits, that's in the US constitution and is the hallmark of the civil liberties we enjoy as Americans. I'd fight to for his right to call me out for not being always right or anyone else, even Drew Brees.

With all that said howeveer, it still was kind of petty for Duncan to nitpick Brees on this. Brees is not ijn public office, he is not in the State Legislature, he is not Mary Landreiu or David Vitter. Nor is he President Obama or his administration who we as Americans elected to be the 44th president off the United States of America. Those are the people who are far more worthy of being held accountable. They are public officials, elected by the people and to represent this country as a whole.

Duncan's job and the media's is to focus and evulate on the successes and failures of these people. An opinion on some Pro Bowl QB voicing his opinion on Gitmo when he has no authority to make policy or even to indirectly involve the dialogue is small, petty, and arguably counterproductive.

But hey what the hell do I know, maybe tactfulness and petty misfocused op-ed's are apart of a journalist's job sometimes. I guess that's their right too, still doesn't any less rightful to point out the timing and wondeer about the direction he's pointing it at. No one institution is above criticism, not one,. and that means the mainstream media.

They are not sacred cows of any fashion.

Period, end of story,political beliefs and biases are off the table.

That to me may not be fair but is sure as hell makes a lot of sense to me.

 

[Saint Jeremy]

Guitarzan mentioned nothing is ever really fair. That's a good enough summarry and I for one agree with him.

After all Drew Brees only went to Gitmo to show his support for our armed forces, just like he did going to Iraq, Kuwait, Afghanistan, seeing our soldiers, giving them at least a brief reminder of life back home, and to encourage them in a hellish environment where IED's and mortar attacks are being fired at them possibly every day of the week.

One might think a well-regarded local celebrity like Drew Brees, who along with his wife, have settled into the New Orleans community, done a enormous amount of charity work,. helped build homes for low-income families via Habitat for Humanity, building them along side with President Jimmy Carter, and try to rebuild a torned up city that was sky bombed by a catashrophic hurricanee disaster and an inept federal response. One might think Duncan wouldn't try to be percieved as so tactful and causing a minor controversy by ear-nosing Brees over certain political differences or affiliatations

But Duncan has every fundamental right to voice his disagreements with Brees visits, that's in the US constitution and is the hallmark of the civil liberties we enjoy as Americans. I'd fight to for his right to call me out for not being always right or anyone else, even Drew Brees.

With all that said howeveer, it still was kind of petty for Duncan to nitpick Brees on this. Brees is not ijn public office, he is not in the State Legislature, he is not Mary Landreiu or David Vitter. Nor is he President Obama or his administration who we as Americans elected to be the 44th president off the United States of America. Those are the people who are far more worthy of being held accountable. They are public officials, elected by the people and to represent this country as a whole.

Duncan's job and the media's is to focus and evulate on the successes and failures of these people. An opinion on some Pro Bowl QB voicing his opinion on Gitmo when he has no authority to make policy or even to indirectly involve the dialogue is small, petty, and arguably counterproductive.

But hey what the hell do I know, maybe tactfulness and petty misfocused op-ed's are apart of a journalist's job sometimes. I guess that's their right too, still doesn't any less rightful to point out the timing and wondeer about the direction he's pointing it at. No one institution is above criticism, not one,. and that means the mainstream media.

They are not sacred cows of any fashion.

Period, end of story,political beliefs and biases are off the table.

That to me may not be fair but is sure as hell makes a lot of sense to me.

Good post. Bottom line for me, Drew is trying to do a good thing and doesn't need to be called out for it.

 

[TurkeyOTooley]

Cristian conservative is an oxymoron
Jesus was a liberal

Wrong.

Jesus was neither liberal nor conservative. He was tempted with political power and rejected it (see Luke 4).

Politics is how a fumbling and blind humanity tries to establish order in society. Politics is a but a temporary institution.

The mission of Jesus transcended politics.

Uh, oh . . . I better stop I feel a move to "behind the levee" coming on.

 

[HOF_Smeenge]

I think Duncan set the tone for the article by equating Drew's comments to a "bad pass". If Jeff believes differently than Drew then he is more than welcome to voice those beliefs, but no need to take a cheap shot with a bad pun, just say you respectfully disagree.

 

[Guitarzan]

Wrong.

Jesus was neither liberal nor conservative. He was tempted with political power and rejected it (see Luke 4).

Politics is how a fumbling and blind humanity tries to establish order in society. Politics is a but a temporary institution.

The mission of Jesus transcended politics.

Uh, oh . . . I better stop I feel a move to "behind the levee" coming on.

not liberal in the political meaning but: marked by generosity given or provided in an openhanded way

or socialist: of or relating to human society, the interaction of the individual and the group, or the welfare of human beings as members of society

 

[DMaestro]

And just to add my two cents to the underlying issue, among those endorsing the shutdown of Gitmo is General Petraeus, so hardly think its a question of "supporting the troops" or not.

Thank you. I support our troops too --- the 98% of them who are good, decent people. In fact, I hold them in higher regard than I do the political nabobs who send them hither and thither. That support is unconditional, and has nothing to do with my personal politics. So the sloganeering and hyperpartisan shibboleths really need to be flushed down the can.

In short, no I don't think Jeff Duncan should write an apology to Drew Brees, and I'd wager my house that Drew doesn't think so either.

 

[TurkeyOTooley]

not liberal in the political meaning but: marked by generosity given or provided in an openhanded way

or socialist: of or relating to human society, the interaction of the individual and the group, or the welfare of human beings as members of society

I hear what you're saying, but at the end of the day "liberal", "conservative", "socialist", "fascist", etc. are just labels that we use to establish a semblance of order in an unpredictable world.

I know many generous and openhanded people who are both politically conservative and liberal.

As for socialism and the brotherhood of humanity, sure, but Jesus also respected authority and stated that the brotherhood of humanity is under a death sentence because of original sin. A severe message to be sure, and certainly apolitical.

 

[mister pc]

IMO, Duncan got political. Drew was giving his opinion based on viewing the camp and was supporting the troops. Duncan brought up a whole bunch of other stuff. Again my opinion. I was shocked when I read the article. If he was going to go there, the article would have been better done in the news section, not the sports section and by a news reporter, not a sports reporter.

Good post. Bottom line for me, Drew is trying to do a good thing and doesn't need to be called out for it.

what are you talking about? Brees cited evidence as to why he thought the prison should stay open, Duncan cited evidence as to why it should be closed. He didnt attack Brees or get political. Our commander in chief Barack Obama, and General Petreus, and even John McCain all agreed that its in our national security interest to close the prison. Brees may be well intentioned, but Duncan is certainly not out of line for pointing out that an NFL QB may not have a full understanding of the nuances pertaining to national security just because he took a brief tour of the facility. i love Brees but there is nothing wrong with what Duncan wrote. General Petreus doesnt tell Brees how to convert third down, Brees should not tell him how to manage the war on terror. People need to understand that "supporting the troops" does not mean you have to advocate keeping Guantanamo open.

 

[Mojomajik9]

I read the article and I didn't think Duncan came off as attacking Drew in anyway. He was fair enough to print what Drew said and to include the link so you could listen to it yourself. He then brought up a counter argument and remained respectful. Pretty much a lot of hub bub over nothing