So you want the Saints to go away from a guy who catches over 80% of his targeted passes? (1 Viewer)

[Kyle brister]

Here's why the Saints need a number-two WR behind Michael Thomas

[jwplayer jPFc1ZbG] Michael Thomas is an elite wide receiver in the NFL. He leads the league in catches (45) and receiving yards (543), reeling in 81.8% of his targets from all three of the New Orl…

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This has to be about the most illogical reason for making a griping point I've ever read. Teddy Bridgewater is 3-0 with the 4th best completion percentage in football & this genius wants the Saints to quit targeting Michael Thomas because why? He catches TOO MANY PASSES. Well genius article writer. Maybe if their was somebody else on the team, or in the whole league for that matter who could get himself open & catch that high a percentage of passes they would. Do you realize Mr. article writer that every single interception this team has had has come off the hands of one of our other receivers? And I highly doubt that any other team is going to be in the mood to just ship their most dependable guy to us because they like us. So what is your point? Oh, that's right, you don't have one. Please find something else to complain about besides a guy who catches over 80% of the passes thrown his way, or a QB who has one of the highest completion percentages in football.

Oh snap, you want us to sign one Dezmond Bryant because he will make the difference, correct? Well let's examine the facts: If you go to the 16th column on the link below you will see that says catch %. Please do take note of Mr. Bryant's remarkable production over the last three years before he tore his achilles on day one of practice for the Saints. I see 43% for 2015, 52% for 2016, & 52% for 2017 ( 2018 is INCOMPLETE). The man's last good year was 5 years ago in 2014. Maybe I'm dead wrong, but wouldn't there be a reason why the Cowboys who desperately traded for a wideout last season released him before his injury? So if my interpretation of this article is correct, you want the Saints to waste time on a guy who catches half his targets so we don't have to throw to a guy who is an all world clutch catching machine that catches over 80% of his targets? Cest Tou

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[Snakehead]

And when a team ends up slowing down/stopping MT, we end up with the NFCCG. The argument is that we need to upgrade WR2 and in which case would hopefully avoid the drops, tips and INTs that have come off our our marginal WR2s we have been fielding.

Edit: To clarify, I am not advocating to stop throwing to MT. I am saying that IF a team can shut him down, we have to have another reliable option.

 

[randpiers]

who is dez bryant?

in all seriousness... until MT starts dropping balls thrown to him... keep throwing to him.

imo

rp

 

[literature]

I understand spreading the ball around and the Saints are going to always bear that in mind, but “have your quarterback give the ball to either the best WR in the game or the best RB in the game over and over until you win” is kind of a foolproof plan. Especially since this year “throw to the pro bowl TE” is shaping up to be the third option in case they somehow can take both those guys away on a play.

 

[Kyle brister]

And when a team ends up slowing down/stopping MT, we end up with the NFCCG. The argument is that we need to upgrade WR2 and in which case would hopefully avoid the drops, tips and INTs that have come off our our marginal WR2s we have been fielding.

Edit: To clarify, I am not advocating to stop throwing to MT. I am saying that IF a team can shut him down, we have to have another reliable option.

They didn't slow down Michael. They got pressure on Drew because our offensive line was so beat up they literally held together with duct tape & bailing wire. No one stopped MT. And you can't show me on film where they did. There isn't a defensive back in this league that can go toe to toe with Mike. I have yet to see two DB's in this league that can stop him. As good as he's been, he's just now starting to come into his prime. Think about that. He was a baby, now he a man child.

 

[Snakehead]

They didn't slow down Michael. They got pressure on Drew because our offensive line was so beat up they literally held together with duct tape & bailing wire. No one stopped MT. And you can't show me on film where they did. There isn't a defensive back in this league that can go toe to toe with Mike. I have yet to see two DB's in this league that can stop him. As good as he's been, he's just now starting to come into his prime. Think about that. He was a baby, now he a man child.

I'm not disagreeing with you, no need to get so defensive.

However, using your logic it shouldn't have mattered how bad the line was getting beat up and Drew was getting pressured MT should've carried the team on his back since he can't be stopped and he doesn't need any help.

 

[Kyle brister]

I'm not disagreeing with you, no need to get so defensive.

However, using your logic it shouldn't have mattered how bad the line was getting beat up and Drew was getting pressured MT should've carried the team on his back since he can't be stopped and he doesn't need any help.

I appreciate your post so i wasn't being defensive. Please don't take it that way. I am thinking yaw yaw who wrote this article needs to get fever checked. But in the case in which you just asked the question: A) you can't catch it if it aint making it to you. B) that slant that Drew underthrew to Mike before the CALL. Who else in the world would you have wanted that ball going to? If he catches that we're running out the clock & kicking the field goal. But I can guarantee Mr. I might, or might not catch the ball aint doin it. At this point in his career if one still refers to it as that, he's about two things, self preservation & cashing one more pay check.

 

[Snakehead]

I appreciate your post so i wasn't being defensive. Please don't take it that way. I am thinking yaw yaw who wrote this article needs to get fever checked. But in the case in which you just asked the question: A) you can't catch it if it aint making it to you. B) that slant that Drew underthrew to Mike before the CALL. Who else in the world would you have wanted that ball going to? If he catches that we're running out the clock & kicking the field goal. But I can guarantee Mr. I might, or might not catch the ball aint doin it. At this point in his career if one still refers to it as that, he's about two things, self preservation & cashing one more pay check.

I see this article was posted about 8 hours ago. The same guy had another article a few days ago going over all of the potential targets we should put opposite MT. I can see the point he is trying to make, but without anyone stepping up, it doesn't make any sense to go away from MT. A team may catch on and potentially sellout to double cover or bracket MT because they know our WR2s are suspect at best. It would be nice to have someone that could make them pay if/when that day comes. Is it TQS? I'm not sure he can't stay healthy. Maybe it is one of these UDFAs that are being developed. We haven't had the best luck trading for or signing via FA TEs or WRs. SP does a better job of developing guys for his system which is why I believe it might be one of the guys already on the team who ascends to that role. Even if we do get that 2nd guy, I'd still feed it to MT until that wasn't an option anymore.

An X factor is Cook after he got his bell rung last game. Maybe that's what he needed to step up his game, but he was a lot better after it then the previous games where he was borderline a liability out there.

 

[Kyle brister]

I went back & looked at what this guy was using as his reference to make his point. Do you realize it's a stinking fantasy stat? I couldn't give a crap about who's doing what in fantasy. I guess if this guy was smart enough to draft MT he would be writing how they should just keep feeding MT the ball. The fact is Alvin Kamara catches around 80% of his targets & so does Michael Thomas. The other guys on this team catch the ball at about 63% which is what every other good/ not great receiver in the game does. Our problem is we compare every receiver we have to MT instead of all the other receivers in the world. There's a reason MT is making mad money. He's the BEST. And Alvin Kamara is at the top of the league in catching as well. I'm just wondering who doesn't comprehend this. Our receiving corps would be good without MT. But MT makes our corps hands down the best. Why do people think Drew's completion percentage went up over the last three seasons? Some times you just have to live with the fact that you're already the best. And chasing yaw yaws around isn't going to help make you better.

 

[Snakehead]

I went back & looked at what this guy was using as his reference to make his point. Do you realize it's a stinking fantasy stat? I couldn't give a crap about who's doing what in fantasy. I guess if this guy was smart enough to draft MT he would be writing how they should just keep feeding MT the ball. The fact is Alvin Kamara catches around 80% of his targets & so does Michael Thomas. The other guys on this team catch the ball at about 63% which is what every other good/ not great receiver in the game does. Our problem is we compare every receiver we have to MT instead of all the other receivers in the world. There's a reason MT is making mad money. He's the BEST. And Alvin Kamara is at the top of the league in catching as well. I'm just wondering who doesn't comprehend this. Our receiving corps would be good without MT. But MT makes our corps hands down the best. Why do people think Drew's completion percentage went up over the last two seasons? Some times you just have to live with the fact that you're already the best. And chasing yaw yaws around isn't going to help make you better.

I do enjoy having MT on most if not all of my fantasy teams.

 

[Kyle brister]

I do enjoy having MT on most if not all of my fantasy teams.

Obviously the writer of this article doesn't.

 

[Jb25saints]

Hmm look at the past super bowl winning teams for the past +5 years. Look at the teams WRs rosters. Every team has more than one reliable receiver.

MT is a beast but this is a team sport and he can not do it all.

& SP knows that which is why we have been linked to some WR trades. I won’t be surprised if something is pulled off. If so MT will have the opportunity to make even more plays... ?

It’s unfortunate that our other wideouts are hurt or under performing. It was a big question for the start of the season

 

[Kyle brister]

Hmm look at the past super bowl winning teams for the past +5 years. Look at the teams WRs rosters. Every team has more than one reliable receiver.

MT is a beast but this is a team sport and he can not do it all.

& SP knows that which is why we have been linked to some WR trades. I won’t be surprised if something is pulled off. If so MT will have the opportunity to make even more plays... ?

It’s unfortunate that our other wideouts are hurt or under performing. It was a big question for the start of the season

It's less of a question now, than it was last season & we won 13 games with them. Pray tell who were Seattle's, or Denver's, or New England's great receivers for that fact? We just got a relief QB going with this group of guys. Now we're going to throw a new guy who doesn't know our play book, our route tree, our audible system, or everything we expect from our receivers into one of the two most complex offenses in the league? And we're gonna work it out & not miss a step? Dan Arnold can play receiver as well as tight end. Lil Jordan Humphrey has only done everything asked of him & caught everything that's been thrown at him.

I seem to recall going through this same rigamaroll last season & what did it yield? Two over rated over the hill WRs who didn't play a single down in a single game. And when I look at the stat line, I see an offense that was clicking at well in excess of 300 YPG passing until they started messing with team chemistry. Then the passing stats started to crumble. It's a funny thing about team chemistry & communication. It's hard to build, but easy to mess up.

 

[0rion]

Can never have too much talent or too many options.

 

[sammymvpknight]

And when a team ends up slowing down/stopping MT, we end up with the NFCCG. The argument is that we need to upgrade WR2 and in which case would hopefully avoid the drops, tips and INTs that have come off our our marginal WR2s we have been fielding.

Edit: To clarify, I am not advocating to stop throwing to MT. I am saying that IF a team can shut him down, we have to have another reliable option.

Many people are also making the assumption that Michael Thomas will play 16 games. Thomas is very well conditioned, and I'd say that there's a pretty good chance he does it, but what if he doesn't? Can anyone with a straight face say that they are comfortable with Ted Ginn as the Saints #1 WR. I'm pretty sure our passing game dies if we don't have Michael Thomas. We need to find someone who has the ability to be a #1 if needed but would ideally be a #2 in our offense. I personally like Emmanuel Sanders, and I've been pumping him before anyone...so I really don't need to elaborate any further.