The best QB in this draft (2 Viewers)

[No2DC]

The Payton regime was never able to develop a rook, and we saw how Book looked last year, I would rather see how Jameis does this year and if that doesn't work look for another vet.

 

[livefromDC]

Last year's class was supposedly loaded and three guys weren't ready to start as rookies and the top overall pick had to have the backup traded b/c his leadership overshadowed Sunshine.

Which should tell you volumes about this class.

 

[BreesHOF2024]

At least one QB in this draft will be able to win 1 playoff game in 7 years.

That is all.

 

[BreesHOF2024]

Which should tell you volumes about this class.

They aren't coming out of Alabama, Clemson, or OSU and not overhyped for no reason?

 

[Snakehead]

Which should tell you volumes about this class.

Or that you really don't know until they get into the NFL.

 

[livefromDC]

Or that you really don't know until they get into the NFL.

Except we do. As much as you want to dream that NFL teams miss out on the Tom Brady of the class every year, they don't. It's just a mistake that delusional fans and bad GMs make every year.

 

[GameBreaker]

I'll take Malik Willis and raise you a Pickett. Willis based on his pure raw talent that can be developed behind Winston and Pickett for being NFL ready. He could back up Winston and I wouldn't be so worried about him having to start like I would any other rookie. Strong would be very interesting. Otherwise, I don't really like the rest of the QB crop in the upcoming draft so much.

Willis has good highlight reels. He could boom as he may have the highest ceiling. But I dont get excited by single read and run QBs.

Pickett is probably the most accurate in the aggregate across all 3 levels but his pocket awareness is trash. But I could see him fixing this with coaching and expectations.

To me, Strong stands out as having tick all the boxes for success. Accuracy (especially in the intermediate and long balls), anticipation, pocket awareness and arm strength.

His biggest knocks are that he's not very mobile and his accuracy in the short throws.

If his leg is truly healed from the cadaver ligament, he's going to make a front office look good when they select him in the second or third round.

 

[liveoakh]

Carson Strong is the best QB prospect in this draft. He checks all the boxes. If it wasn't for his surgically repaired knee he would be the first one taken. I really hope we are strongly (no pun intended) considering him.

I love Carson Strong, he checks a lot of boxes. His upside is very high. Carson already starts with height, hand size, robust arm strength, smart, and committed. His knee injury healed up, right as the start of the season. He looked slow and plodding in the first few games. But, look at his film in the later games when his knee healed up. He won't win any races but, he has very serviceable NFL speed.

However, I am yet to see him take a snap under center. It is my belief, he is as good a piece of clay to work with as any of the others. There is no day one starter in this group, as I see it. That is not to say, no one will start their rookie QB. He is a late first rounder for me, but if someone likes him enough he could go before we pick. He could be the steal of the draft, I just don't know. I like him more than Picket.

 

[Swampy Saint]

Except we do. As much as you want to dream that NFL teams miss out on the Tom Brady of the class every year, they don't. It's just a mistake that delusional fans and bad GMs make every year.

Can I have this week's winning lottery numbers?

 

[livefromDC]

Can I have this week's winning lottery numbers?

Predicting who will be a franchise QB isn't the hard part. It's being in position to draft one. There's a reason Burrow went #1 over all and a reason why none of these QBs are ranked in the top 10 players. As we get closer to the draft desperate teams will take an unfounded risk and reach for a QB thinking "hopefully it turns out okay" versus "this is what the film says".

Hitting on a QB isn't as hard as the lottery, but people like to pretend it's random, like someone finds a Tom Brady every year. When in fact the MOST LIKELY outcome is dropping a first round pick on someone that shouldn't have been picked in the first. That's not hard to see if you take off the wishful thinking goggles.

When a franchise QB enters the draft, go all in to get him, but wasting a 1st hoping that a guy that looks like a project turns into a franchise QB is nuts. All these QBs other than Pickett have giant flaws, and while Pickett is arguably a first round guy, he still has questions marks.

I'm just not a fan of doing something when there's a lot of evidence it won't turn out well.

 

[Swampy Saint]

Predicting who will be a franchise QB isn't the hard part. It's being in position to draft one. There's a reason Burrow went #1 over all and a reason why none of these QBs are ranked in the top 10 players. As we get closer to the draft desperate teams will take an unfounded risk and reach for a QB thinking "hopefully it turns out okay" versus "this is what the film says".

Hitting on a QB isn't as hard as the lottery, but people like to pretend it's random, like someone finds a Tom Brady every year. When in fact the MOST LIKELY outcome is dropping a first round pick on someone that shouldn't have been picked in the first. That's not hard to see if you take off the wishful thinking goggles.

When a franchise QB enters the draft, go all in to get him, but wasting a 1st hoping that a guy that looks like a project turns into a franchise QB is nuts. All these QBs other than Pickett have giant flaws, and while Pickett is arguably a first round guy, he still has questions marks.

I'm just not a fan of doing something when there's a lot of evidence it won't turn out well.

Well said.

I'm not married to any QB in this year or next year's draft. Jameis will not get unseated by any of these guys this year or maybe even next if he continues on the path of progression he was before he got hurt.
It was just the way you worded it in your prior post. Thanks for clearing it up.

 

[guillermo]

Which should tell you volumes about this class.

I actually really like this draft class.

To me Pickett, Willis, Corral and even Ridder are worth the #18th pick. And I hope we won't be picking in the teens or early for a while, so this may be the time to go and pick one.

I am not sure who will be available when we pick, but I would not mind if we pick any of them.

The interesting thing to me, is that all are capable players, but very different one from the other. I am very curious to learn how the saints rank them.

 

[St. Widge]

Predicting who will be a franchise QB isn't the hard part. It's being in position to draft one. There's a reason Burrow went #1 over all and a reason why none of these QBs are ranked in the top 10 players. As we get closer to the draft desperate teams will take an unfounded risk and reach for a QB thinking "hopefully it turns out okay" versus "this is what the film says".

Hitting on a QB isn't as hard as the lottery, but people like to pretend it's random, like someone finds a Tom Brady every year. When in fact the MOST LIKELY outcome is dropping a first round pick on someone that shouldn't have been picked in the first. That's not hard to see if you take off the wishful thinking goggles.

When a franchise QB enters the draft, go all in to get him, but wasting a 1st hoping that a guy that looks like a project turns into a franchise QB is nuts. All these QBs other than Pickett have giant flaws, and while Pickett is arguably a first round guy, he still has questions marks.

I'm just not a fan of doing something when there's a lot of evidence it won't turn out well.

Hitting on a QB is hard no matter where you draft one. Look at all the high pick QBs that bust. And I'm not just talking about the guys that climb up the boards because QBs are so valuable. I'm talking about legit top prospects like Ryan Leaf, Matt Leinert, Rodney Pete, Steve Walsh, JaMarcus Russel, and the list goes on and on.

But the fact is that in basically every draft there are at least one or two QBs who end up being at worst solid starters in the NFL. They sometimes come as first round picks but not always. Sure, Brady is the outlier, but there are other examples like Brees, Kurt Warner, Russel Wilson, and more.

So, since we have Winston for 2 years, I'm not saying trade up in the first to overdraft a QB or even take a QB at #18 but if the teams' scouts like a QB and he is available as BPA in rounds 2 through 7, you draft him and hope you hit on the lottery ticket.

 

[Joodas Avila]

Sam Howell & Matt Corral

 

[DavidM]

I actually really like this draft class.

To me Pickett, Willis, Corral and even Ridder are worth the #18th pick. And I hope we won't be picking in the teens or early for a while, so this may be the time to go and pick one.

I am not sure who will be available when we pick, but I would not mind if we pick any of them.

The interesting thing to me, is that all are capable players, but very different one from the other. I am very curious to learn how the saints rank them.

I think this QB class is getting overly criticized because it lacks anybody who looks like a day-one star and starter. People point to next year's draft but two of the most anticipated members of that class are from programs where quarterbacks have mostly looked significantly overvalued once they make it to the NFL.

Problem for the Saints is that they haven't had much success filling other offensive needs so far during free agency, so might have to lean even harder into this draft to accomplish that. There is still time for those needs to change, but right now the cost of drafting a QB high could mean another season of carrying subpar talent elsewhere.

If there is a QB they really like this year, then a move to get that player might be a big picture move they think they have to make. Finding a longterm quality starting QB is the hardest position to fill so if the opportunity is there, it's hard to pass on.