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Dream team.. 😂

We destroyed them twice this year only to choke in the playoffs vs them.

I would gladly welcome another chance to play them; definitely falls into the ‘1 hit wonder’ for me
 
Saintsfootball said:
I'll give you Brady but Fournette? An overdrafted running back that averaged less than 4 yards per carry and was not even the best rb on the Bucs roster. RoJo was by far the more explosive and better back. Both of them dropped several balls and Fournette had over 10 drops.

AB who was out of the league last year and Gronk is past his prime. AB looked good at times but the Bucs seemed like a better team when Scotty Miller was in the game vs AB. Sure if you go off of name recognition then I'll give you dream team I guess but it is far from a dream team production wise.
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Fournette was a key contributor in the playoffs: 300 yards, 3 TDs over all 4 games. Jones not so much: 140 yards, 0 TDs over 3 games. They used Jones at the 1 yard line on 4th in the SB, he couldn't punch it in.

The Bucs run game wasn't a strength either in the regular season or the playoffs, but they improved just enough (from poor to average) to balance out the pass game against some really tough defenses in the postseason. They were able to use it to kill the clock at crucial times.

Jones got the bulk of the regular season carries, and improved as a runner, but although he said he worked on catching, he wasn't reliable. Fournette spelled him mostly, occasionally had the hot hand, and was a dual threat catching. I honestly didn't see either of them as clearly better or worse than the other, but I'm glad we had them both.
 
cajunman9 said:
The Bucs caught every lucky break in the playoffs.
They were a Lucky team (or perhaps a fix).
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Every team needs some luck in the playoffs, the Bucs got a huge measure of it. They got the easiest matchup in the wildcard round (and nearly blew it), played Brees on a historically bad day, and destroyed KC's beat-up OL in the SB. I've watched that 2nd quarter several times, and there were 2-3 bad calls. I just don't see a trip on Evans at all, and only incidental contact on the Int overturned by holding, which for me was a critical call in the game. There's clear evidence that those calls messed with the KC defense mindset, judging by the mic'd up comments. The Bucs also got help from opposing teams: poor clock management, poor gameplans (KC never adjusted to help Mahomes buy time to throw in the SB), poor situational play, crucial dropped catches and Int opportunities.

The Bucs have been a heavily penalized team for a decade: a lot of that was undisciplined play by the team. It really only turned around this year after the debacle up in Chicago, after that they really tightened up. But I don't buy the conspiracy narrative, the most help we got was other teams shooting themselves in the foot and us making plays when we needed to.
 
Xoxarle said:
Fournette was a key contributor in the playoffs: 300 yards, 3 TDs over all 4 games. Jones not so much: 140 yards, 0 TDs over 3 games. They used Jones at the 1 yard line on 4th in the SB, he couldn't punch it in.

The Bucs run game wasn't a strength either in the regular season or the playoffs, but they improved just enough (from poor to average) to balance out the pass game against some really tough defenses in the postseason. They were able to use it to kill the clock at crucial times.

Jones got the bulk of the regular season carries, and improved as a runner, but although he said he worked on catching, he wasn't reliable. Fournette spelled him mostly, occasionally had the hot hand, and was a dual threat catching. I honestly didn't see either of them as clearly better or worse than the other, but I'm glad we had them both.
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I agree Fournette was a key contributor in the playoffs. Both him and Jones averaged over 4 yards per carry but Fournette had several drops in the playoffs. He's not really that reliable in the passing game. But in the regular season Jones was clearly the better runner. Both weren't good in the passing game. Jones was top 5 in yards after contact where as Fournette wasn't in the top 30-40.

Either way I would not sign Fournette long term. Atleast not for a lot of money.
 
Xoxarle said:
Every team needs some luck in the playoffs, the Bucs got a huge measure of it. They got the easiest matchup in the wildcard round (and nearly blew it), played Brees on a historically bad day, and destroyed KC's beat-up OL in the SB. I've watched that 2nd quarter several times, and there were 2-3 bad calls. I just don't see a trip on Evans at all, and only incidental contact on the Int overturned by holding, which for me was a critical call in the game. There's clear evidence that those calls messed with the KC defense mindset, judging by the mic'd up comments. The Bucs also got help from opposing teams: poor clock management, poor gameplans (KC never adjusted to help Mahomes buy time to throw in the SB), poor situational play, crucial dropped catches and Int opportunities.

The Bucs have been a heavily penalized team for a decade: a lot of that was undisciplined play by the team. It really only turned around this year after the debacle up in Chicago, after that they really tightened up. But I don't buy the conspiracy narrative, the most help we got was other teams shooting themselves in the foot and us making plays when we needed to.
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I see the trip on Evans but the holding was shaky. Either way the refs weren't the cause for KC losing. KC got punched in the mouth on both sides of the ball. The Bucs clearly outplayed the Chiefs and it wasn't close. I loved seeing Winfield get payback on Hill.
 
Thanks Jared cook. None of this even shouldve happened. We probably wouldve been spanked by breen bay though anyway
 
Saintsfootball said:
I'd put money on the Saints miss the playoffs before the Bucs.
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If my memory wasn't so horrible we could do an avatar bet but I know how that works. No way I remember this or who said it and the only way I get reminded is if you win haha
 
Xoxarle said:
Every team needs some luck in the playoffs, the Bucs got a huge measure of it. They got the easiest matchup in the wildcard round (and nearly blew it), played Brees on a historically bad day, and destroyed KC's beat-up OL in the SB. I've watched that 2nd quarter several times, and there were 2-3 bad calls. I just don't see a trip on Evans at all, and only incidental contact on the Int overturned by holding, which for me was a critical call in the game. There's clear evidence that those calls messed with the KC defense mindset, judging by the mic'd up comments. The Bucs also got help from opposing teams: poor clock management, poor gameplans (KC never adjusted to help Mahomes buy time to throw in the SB), poor situational play, crucial dropped catches and Int opportunities.

The Bucs have been a heavily penalized team for a decade: a lot of that was undisciplined play by the team. It really only turned around this year after the debacle up in Chicago, after that they really tightened up. But I don't buy the conspiracy narrative, the most help we got was other teams shooting themselves in the foot and us making plays when we needed to.
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My reasoning for a fix is that what a great storyline it makes for selling the audience to watch
the Super Bowl (which according to the audience numbers reporting were far down},
storyline makes a great sell for, "the next great quarterback in the NFL versus the current G.O.A.T".
And no amount of selling the NFL, and CBS could muster helped the audience numbers. They were woeful.
Just awful, as it has been all year.

Goodell better think of something quick to get viewer numbers up because the NFL will need it to convince the networks to
bid up billions of dollars. The only way the owners have survived this year is because of their revenue sharing from
the billions made from the network dollars guarantees. The owners have gone bankrupt by the loss of
their billions $$$ otherwise.
 
You know Brady isn’t retiring, right?

They’ll basically have the exact same team next season, plus probably JJ Watt.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they win the Super Bowl again.
 

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